Commvault Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: CVLT) Q3 2025 Earnings Call dated Jan. 28, 2025
Corporate Participants:
Michael J. Melnyk — Head of Investor Relations
Sanjay Mirchandani — Director, President and Chief Executive Officer
Jen DiRico — Chief Financial Officer
Analysts:
Aaron Rakers — Analyst
Eric Heath — Analyst
Jason Ader — Analyst
Paramveer Singh — Analyst
Rudy Kessinger — Analyst
Howard Ma — Analyst
James Fish — Analyst
Unidentified Participant
Presentation:
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Commvault third quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star. Followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question again, press the star one.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Melnick, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin.
Michael J. Melnyk — Head of Investor Relations
Good morning and welcome to our earnings conference call. Before we begin, I’d like to remind you that statements made on today’s call will include forward looking statements about Commvault’s future expectations, plans and prospects. All such forward looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions.
Please refer to the cautionary language in today’s earnings release and Commvault’s most recent periodic reports filed with the SEC for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause the company’s actual results to be materially different from those contemplated in these forward looking statements. Commvault does not assume any obligation to update these statements during this call. Commvault’s financial results are presented on a non GAAP basis. A reconciliation between the non GAAP and GAAP measures can be found on our website. Thank you again for joining us.
Now I’ll turn it over to our CEO Sanjay Merchandani for his opening remarks. Sanjay
Sanjay Mirchandani — Director, President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining today’s call. Q3 was another record breaking quarter for Commvault. Total revenue increased 21% to $263 million. Subscription revenue grew 39% to $158 million. Total ARR improved 21% in constant currency SaaS ARR jumped 75% in constant currency and we did this profitably recording non GAAP ebit margins of 20.8%. At a time where cyber resilience and data security could not be more top of mind for CISOs and IT leaders, we saw strong uptick in transaction volume, impressive growth in our land and expand business and an acceleration in our organic growth rate.
As we look to the future, we believe that Commvault is strategically positioned to succeed and win. This is bolstered by three fundamental growth drivers. First, the cyber resilience market has never been more dynamic or full of promise. We are uniquely positioned to capitalize on this Today. Customers face unrelenting cyber attacks, a shifting regulatory landscape and the exponential growth of data from cloud, native and AI generated applications. To deal with this, enterprises need a unified resilience platform that spans their hybrid multi cloud environment. This is where commvault thrives. Our commvault cloud platform is enterprise grade and enables customers to easily protect and secure vast amounts of data including AI and ML datasets across clouds, and given most customers are utilizing multiple clouds, we’re innovating across all major providers.
During the quarter, we announced that commvault cloud platform. Will be available to AWS customers. We also introduced advanced cloud backup and recovery capabilities for Google Workspace. This builds on what we already do today with Microsoft Azure and Oracle Cloud. With respect to cloud, we’re also innovating in unique ways to address critical recovery challenges. For example, one of the most complex and time consuming steps to recover a business after a cyber attack is rebuilding and validating mission critical cloud native applications. Previously, this could take weeks or months.
Today, with Cloud Rewind, which includes technologies from our Appranix acquisition, customers can do this in a fraction of the time. ARR associated with this offering has more than doubled since we acquired Appranix a few months ago. Cloud Rewind has become a highly differentiated capability within our platform, which brings us to the second fundamental growth driver, the need for our game changing driver resilience offerings. They’re unlike anything on the market and they make our industry leading platform even stronger.
Today, customers demand predictability, fast recoveries and solutions to address the latest threats. That’s what our next generation offerings do. Security is built in, not bolted on. Without innovating the competition on every level. Let me give you an example. To be truly resilient, you need a predictable recovery plan that can be automated and used at a moment’s notice. And you must be able to practice that recovery in good times so that you can be ready for the bad times. This is what we uniquely provide with Threat Scan and Clean Room Recovery, both our core offerings on our commvault cloud platform.
With Cleanroom, customers love the sense of security provides. Emerson Electric commented, Cleanroom Recovery not only enables organizations to test their recovery plans often, but know that if they’re hit, they can be resilient. End quote. In terms of addressing the latest threats, we’ve just announced that we will be offering customers with a full and automated recovery of Microsoft Active Directory. This is absolutely critical. Active Directory controls authentication and access to critical business systems for hundreds of millions of users worldwide. Because it is so essential, it’s also become a primary target for cyber attacks. In fact, research shows it is the target in nine out of 10 cyber attacks. If hit, your business will come to a halt.
Starting this spring, we plan to address this threat in transformative ways, making it super simple for organizations to recover their entire Active Directory systems. And even better customers will be able to do this with Commvault Cloud, the same platform that today protects more workloads than any other vendor. Nobody else offers this. Capability on one platform. Customers are thrilled. A spokesperson for the Nevada Department of Transportation said, quote, commvault’s innovation with Active Directory will provide us with the confidence and peace of mind that not only can we recover our Active Directory data, but we’ll be able to do so quickly and accurately. End quote. In just one year since launching our initial Active Directory capabilities, we’ve seen a meaningful uptick in adoption. With our expanded offering, we’re even more excited about its potential.
Another innovation that has customers talking is Clumio Backtrack, which provides a revolutionary way to expedite the recovery of massive Amazon S3 datasets. Many companies are storing AI and ML datasets in S3, so having the ability to recover that data is paramount. We unveiled new automation that can rapidly revert billions of objects to a specific version at a specific point in time. Nobody else does this. We just announced Backtrack at AWS Reinvent and look forward to sharing more in the coming quarters. These cyber resilience offerings bring even more depth and breadth to our platform. They appeal to CISOs and IT leaders alike and they lead to the adoption of net new workloads while fueling momentum around land and expand opportunities. This brings us to our third growth driver, a strong go to market motion combined with an incredible partner ecosystem to scale our business globally.
The strategy that we put in place to segment and refine our go to market motion over the last several quarters of paying dividends. Our cyber resilience marketing message is resonating with customers and we’re seeing record inflows and pipeline growth. And in Q3 we saw increased transaction volumes, strong close rates, accelerating customer numbers and robust expansion activity. These contributions were balanced across geographies, verticals and market segments from seven figure software transactions to a record number of velocity based SaaS wins. The result was another double digit increase in Salesforce productivity in Q3. These advances are further augmented by our enhanced and growing partner ecosystem which enables us to extend our reach globally.
In Q3 we saw solid contributions from alliance partners like Hitachi, HPE, Kyndrol and Dell. This included a large enterprise win with a healthcare provider that combined Commvault’s hyperscale Axe on Dell hardware with our Air Gap Protect offering for immutable protection of the customer’s most critical data. We also saw improved momentum with the hyperscalers as the number of marketplace transactions more than doubled. With compliance in mind, we offered a new partnership with Pure and we’re actively working to strengthen integrations with leading AI providers like Databricks with respect to AI, We’ve prioritized investments in critical. AI capabilities that can proactively identify anomalies, detect threats, and identify ideal recovery points to bounce back after an attack. These capabilities are pivotal to recovery and resilience.
Let me take a moment to summarize the growth drivers that position us for ongoing financial success. First, cyber resilience has shaped the addressable market opportunity and the emergence of new use cases has increased the size and accelerated the growth potential of the market. Second, in this more complex and dynamic hybrid cloud world, point products don’t cut it. Our commvault cloud platform offers customers depth of coverage and breadth of offerings with exceptional choice and flexible consumption. Third, maintaining our relentless focus on execution is critical to our success. This flows through all layers within our organization and extends across our growing partner ecosystem. Our year to date financial performance proves that now more than ever we need to continue these investments to further accelerate our growth profile.
In closing, it’s no longer enough to just recover your data. Today it’s all about enabling continuous business for our customers. From how they prepare for the inevitable disruption to how quickly they get their business up and running following an attack, this is what matters most for a modern hybrid and multi cloud enterprise. And it is what we enable today.
Now I’ll turn it over to our Chief financial officer Jen D’Arico to discuss our results. Jen
Jen DiRico — Chief Financial Officer
Thanks Sanjay. As Sanjay noted, Q3 was another excellent quarter driven by strong execution and record close rates. Our investments in growth oriented initiatives and new product innovations are yielding positive results as demonstrated by the acceleration in our customer additions and our organic growth rate. I want to thank all the vaulters that contributed to the fantastic results this quarter and year to date.
Now I’ll discuss our Q3 results and operating metrics followed by an update on our improved guidance for Q4 and FY25. Please note that all growth rates are compared on a year over year basis unless otherwise specified. Total revenue increased 21% to $263 million, driven by a robust 39% in subscription revenue. The growth in subscription revenue resulted from continued SaaS momentum and significant improvement in the volume of both term software and SaaS transactions compared to the prior year.
Revenue from term Software transactions over $100,000 increased by 18%, benefiting from a 30% rise in volume. This included more than a dozen wins over $1 million. In addition, we saw robust. Growth in landing new large enterprise customers this quarter including Equinix, axa, Vanderbilt University Medical center and Denise Bank Financial Services. Given the breadth and depth of offerings across our platform, we are the vendor of choice to serve large complex enterprises that have mission critical data sitting in on premise hybrid and cloud environments.
I also want to note that our investments around our Velocity motion continue to bear fruit. We added a record number of SaaS customers this quarter. We’re pleased with this increase in volume with the small and medium sized enterprises as we welcome the opportunity to grow with customers on their hybrid cloud journeys. Now Turning to ARR Q3 total ARR grew 18% to $890 million on a constant currency basis.
Total ARR accelerated 21% to $911 million reflecting an acceleration in our organic growth rate as well as incremental contributions from plumio which contributed $24 million. Please refer to the appendix of our quarterly earnings presentation to review the constant currency bridge. Subscription ARR, which includes term based licenses and staff contracts increased by 29% reaching $734 million accounting for 83% of total ARR. This includes $259 million in SaaS ARR which grew 71% continuing its hyper growth trajectory on a constant currency basis.
Subscription ARR increased 32% and SaaS ARR grew 75% including Clumio customers. We added over 1,000 new subscription customers surpassing 11,000 customers worldwide including over 7,000 SaaS customers. We continue to benefit from increased multiproduct adoption among both new and existing customers. For example, we closed a seven figure transaction with a leading global technology infrastructure company that added risk analysis, threat scan and compliance to bolster their overall cyber resilience posture.
A multinational HR and workforce management group chose our Air Gap Protect Cloud Realigned and Active Directory to securely accelerate their hybrid cloud journey. And we closed a seven figure deal with a national partnership of independent insurance brokers that chose Air Gap Protect, VMS and Kubernetes to secure their cloud first infrastructure. These are just a few. Few examples of customers that are bypassing point solutions and top grading vendors to utilize the extensive capabilities of our commvault cloud platform for enhanced cyber resilience in a hybrid cloud world.
Existing customer expansion remains healthy with a Q3 SaaS net dollar retention rate steady at 127% driven by both upsell and cross sell SaaS ARR sought notable growth from new products such as Active Directory, Cloud Rewind, Threatwise and other mission critical offerings. These trends continue to support our confidence in further expansion opportunities with the newest products we announced at shift.
Now I’ll discuss our consistent profitability and free cash flow which demonstrates our commitment to a responsible growth philosophy. Q3 gross margins were 82% reflecting our accelerating mix shift towards SaaS which represented 29% of total ARR versus just 20% one year ago. Gross margins also reflect modest dilution from the Clumio acquisition consistent with our prior guidance. Operating expenses of $160 million represented 61% of total revenue consistent with prior quarter and prior year.
Q3 operating expenses included costs associated with SHIFT in London, the onboarded Columno employees and our continued investments to accelerate revenue momentum which include higher commission and bonuses on record sales results. Non GAAP EBIT grew 17% to $55 million and non GAAP EBIT margins of 20.8% came in at the high end of our guidance range. Now moving to some key balance sheet and cash flow metrics, we ended the quarter with no debt and $244 million in cash which reflects the previously disclosed purchase of Plumio.
We are excited about the progress made towards integrating clumio. It furthers our ability to go deeper in the cloud and positions us to capitalize on potential AI related opportunities. As we continue to invest in our future, we remain opportunistic around technologies that further the depth and breadth of our platform. Q3 Free Cash Flow $30 million was impacted by material foreign exchange headwinds and tax payments made in the quarter tied to higher than projected full year pretax income.
In Q3 we repurchased $32 million of stock representing 107% of free cash flow for the quarter fiscal year to date. Through December 31, 2024, we repurchased 100. $135 million of stock representing 106% of free cash flow. We still plan to repurchase at least 75% of our free cash flow for the full fiscal year. Given our strong results year to date combined with accelerating customer demand and a healthy pipeline, we are pleased to share our outlook for fiscal Q4 and once again raise our guidance for fiscal year 25.
For fiscal Q4 we expect subscription revenue, which includes both the software portion of term based licenses and SAs, to be in the range of 160 to $164 million. This represents 35% year over year growth at the midpoint. We expect total revenue to be in the range of 260 to 264 million with growth of 18% at the midpoint. At these revenue levels, we expect Q4 consolidated gross margins to be in the range of 81 to 82%.
We expect Q4 non GAAP EBIT margins to remain in the range of 20 to 21%. Our projected diluted share count for fiscal Q4 is approximately 45 million shares. We are once again raising our outlook for the full fiscal year 25. We now expect fiscal year 25 total ARR growth of 19 to 20% year over year. We expect subscription ARR to increase in the range of 28 to 30% year over year.
From a full year fiscal 25 revenue perspective, we now expect subscription revenue to be in the range of $575 million to $580 million, growing 35% at the midpoint. With strong contribution from both term software licenses and SaaS. We now expect total revenue growth to accelerate and be in the range of 980 to 985 million dollars in increase of approximately 17% at the midpoint.
Moving to our updated full year fiscal 25 margin EBIT and cash flow outlook, we continue to expect gross margins to be 81 to 82%. We also continue to expect non GAAP EBIT margins to be in the range of 20 to 21%. From a free cash flow perspective, we expect full year free cash flow of 170 to $200 million. Our revised outlook reflects foreign currency headwinds that were more pronounced in Q3 and expected to continue in Q4.
As I reflect on FY25, our strong year to date financial performance demonstrates that our strategy is working. Our. Our cyber resilience message is resonating, our team is executing and our investments are paying off. Looking forward to FY26. We are currently trending ahead of the financial targets that we originally shared and we now expect to achieve those targets earlier than our initial plan.
As Sanjay noted, we couldn’t be more excited about the market and the opportunity in front of us. The revenue driving investments we are making have positioned us to be the cyber resilience provider of choice for enterprise businesses and have contributed to our outstanding financial performance year to date. We remain committed to investing in these growth driving initiatives to further accelerate our momentum in FY26.
Now I will turn it back to the operator to open the line for questions.
Questions and Answers:
Operator
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press Star one again. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening via speakerphone on your device, please pick up your handset to ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question again, press Star one to join the queue.
And our first question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Aaron Rakers
Yeah, thanks for taking the questions and congrats on another solid quarter out of you guys. So I guess Jen, I’d like to double quick a little bit on the momentum you’re seeing in your SaaS customer base. 1000 new customers seems like a fairly sharp acceleration from the plus 600 a quarter over these prior two quarters. Maybe you can unpack that a little bit. How much did Clumio add to that contribution? And then also can you talk a little bit about how many of your customers have more than one SaaS offering today and how you think about that progression as we look into fiscal 26.
Jen DiRico
Thanks so much for the question Aaron. And we’re really proud of our overall performance, in particular the fast acceleration in our organic growth rate. If we think about the number of customers we added about 1000 as you remarked, subscription customers. I would say to you that of the we were running about a 600 in the past run rate. I would say another 200 or so plus or minus come from Plumio and the remainder are all organic. So we’re really proud of that. And then in addition as it relates to your second question around number of products.
So first of all I would say we’re really proud of the 127% SaaS NRR. It still remains about 2/3 upsell, 1/3 cross sell. However, I’ve shared in the past that we’re around 30. % or so of customers have two or more SaaS products. But I would point you to the fact that we still have a lot of opportunity specifically around some of our emerging and new products. Active Directory, Cloud Rewind, Cloud Rewind in particular grew 2x from the time of acquisition. And so while it’s early days for us, we are very, very excited about the potential and believe we have a lot of opportunity to cross sell into the existing base.
Aaron Rakers
Yep. And then the final question you mentioned, tracking ahead of your fiscal 26 targets. Can you just remind us what your targets, what you’ve previously outlined were, and any context of the progression as we look into fiscal 26?
Jen DiRico
Great question. So our previous guidance has been a billion ARR and 330 million SaaS ARR by the end of FY26. I shared that we were tracking ahead of that. I think the best way to think about our growth is last quarter I shared that we were on average adding about 30 million in net new ARR a quarter. This past quarter we added 38 million net new ARR on an organic basis. Excuse me, on a constant currency basis. And so I think that’s the best way to think about how we’re tracking on the future.
Aaron Rakers
Yes. Thank you.
Jen DiRico
Yep.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Eric Heath with Keybanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Eric Heath
Hey, thanks for taking the question and glad to be on the call with you guys today. So Sanjay, maybe just a big picture question. We’d love to get some of your perspective on this acceleration in the business. Just curious, how much of the acceleration do you think is from external factors that might be happening in the marketplace, whether it’s mergers or regulation versus better internal execution.
Sanjay Mirchandani
So I think, you know, the way we look at it is we do one thing for our customers day in and day out, which is make them more resilient, give them the ability to recover in the face of an attack or any kind of catastrophic situation. So we’re, you know, ransomware attacks, cyber attacks are not going down, they’re actually increasing. And what we’re doing is continuing to build out a platform commvault cloud that enables customers in a hybrid, multi cloud world to be able to protect any workload anywhere and be able to recover it in a very predictable way.
So our innovation in the platform is definitely a tailwind, a driver. The growth we’re seeing and we’re solving a really hard problem for our customers. Combine that with over the past three to four quarters, we’ve been quite open and transparent about the way. We’re aligning our go to market resources, driving efficiency productivity across it, getting closer to our customers with our. Customer success team. I think all of that is beginning to take great shape and come together well for us. So it’s a combination of solving a hard problem with a good platform and executing to the best of our ability.
Eric Heath
Thanks for that. And Jen, question for you to follow up on some of the net new ARR comments and hopefully this doesn’t get too much in the weeds, but curious if there’s anything to call out as it relates to the 3Q and 4Q seasonality because when I look at the 3Q net new ARR on a constant currency organic basis, it was similar to the prior 2/4 and the 4Q guidance seems like it implies a similar net new ARR on a constant currency basis as 3Q.
So just curious if there’s any reason why that seasonality should be the case when I usually think of the second half being a bit stronger with a bigger renewal base. So kind of a lot to maybe unpack there. But just any call or anything to call out relates to seasonality.
Jen DiRico
Yeah, absolutely. So I would say overall the second half of the year like you shared is usually historically and seasonally Stronger than the first Q3 had an additional a little bit of a higher renewal population. However, on average as we think about Q4, our guidance focuses on the fact that we have strong pipeline and field execution, we’re continuing to see continued momentum in both our land and expand, and our security offerings are continuing to gain a lot of traction.
And then the last thing I would call out is there’s really from just an organic it’s mostly organic growth only, let’s say a point or two from Klumio. And I think the best way to look at the overall seasonal nature is to take a look at how our ARR continues to grow because it really helps neutralize any seasonality.
Eric Heath
Okay, thanks and congrats again on the organic acceleration.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Thank you very much.
Operator
Next question from Jason Ader with William Blair. Your line is open.
Jason Ader
Yeah, thanks guys. Really impressive revenue growth. I guess my question is when do you expect to see more operating leverage and maybe just some of the puts and takes as you think about the outlook for operating margin?
Jen DiRico
Thanks for the question. So first of all, I think we’ve shared in the past that FY25 was absolutely a year of investment to accelerate market, accelerate our revenue growth. And you’re absolutely seeing that in our results. Five quarters of double digit growth this quarter can walk through a little bit of where the investments went with the increased revenue acceleration at the first, you’re seeing more sats in our revenue profile and as we shared before, that has a more diluted margin than overall term software license.
Second of all, we had Plumio in that mix as well, and we shared the last quarter that it would be dilutive for two to three quarters. The third is the fact that we’ve seen massive overperformance. Performance in our revenue results. And that’s related to the fact. And so you’ll see additional commission and bonuses in the sales and marketing line. And then fourth, ultimately, we’re continuing to invest, like I said. But if I zoom out year to date, we’re at a rule of 39 this quarter, a rule of 42. So overall, we’re really pleased with the performance.
Jason Ader
Okay, thank you. And then one quick follow up just did you say what the revenue contribution was from acquisitions? I didn’t catch that.
Jen DiRico
So we shared that Clumio was $24 million of ARR. And so if you think about that, it’s approximately 6 million from a revenue perspective in quarter.
Jason Ader
Is there any other impact from acquisitions?
Jen DiRico
Apprentice was not meaningful at that point.
Jason Ader
All right, thank you. Good luck.
Jen DiRico
Yeah, of course.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Param Singh with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
Paramveer Singh
Yeah. Hi. Thank you and thanks for taking my question. I really want to kind of dive a little bit more into the SaaS, particularly with all the cybersecurity offerings that you’re putting out now. What percentage of customers or what number of modules are your SaaS customers using? Anything on the security side? Have you seen an acceleration on that front? And I will have a follow up on that in that regard.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Hey, Param, Sanjay, thanks for the questions. The platform is built to deliver what we call built in security, not bolted on security and customers. So the platform in itself enhances the customer security profile and resilience greatly. Just as a benchmark. We’re also the only provider that is Fedramp High certified for, you know, that has gone through the stringent process of Fedramp High. So the platform in and of itself is a very secure platform for our customers. It just raises their profile. If you look at the capabilities we’re building in, in and of itself. Features like Clean Room, which is about recovery, Active Directory, which is about recovery. Okay.
And making you more secure. Our AGP or Air Gap Protect, which is our immutable capabilities on which they can. Customers can write important data and or other things that they want to keep secure. So all of those features as examples give you more security. The ability with Backtrack Pneumio acquisition to roll back billions of objects in S3 and make you in the advent of an attack, all of this makes you more secure and security from the lens of being able to come back to life, recover. So the platform in and of itself is highly secure and certified and we build great capabilities into the technology, the innovations we do that give customers optionality and more just to just.
And I’ll close by saying we just announced an integration with CrowdStrike’s Falcon platform. Which allows us to, for example, take feeds from CrowdStrike, show it in common cloud, and then enable actions automatically if needed to either restore, you know, move data out, do a scan, whatever action a customer wishes to take based on intelligence that we gather from our partners. So as you can tell the platform, you know, we like to think of the platform as being implicitly secure with added dimensions of capabilities that we give customers options on.
Paramveer Singh
Got it. So if I were to put that in the context of module expansion and overall SaaS, is there some way to think about it? Are there additional modules that you intend to bring on either organically, potentially with M and A, that would be a natural evolution of the platform.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Could you repeat your question? I’m trying to unpack it.
Paramveer Singh
Yeah, sure. Sorry, there’s a little bit too much. And I wanted to understand A, in terms of module expansion. Right. You talked about one or two SaaS modules. I’m thinking A, in terms of security modules that could be added on A, organically, or B, if you have any gaps with M and A, that would be interesting to expand your platform.
Sanjay Mirchandani
I think what we have today is second to none, honestly. The pickup we’re getting on our clean room capabilities, which we innovated around Active Directory, which we just announced an enhancement to that I think is going to be amazing for customers feel more secure against cyber attacks. Our acquisitions through Appranix with Rewind, we call the product Rewind now in the ability to bring back to life cloud, native applications, configurations, data, all of it, and backtrack, which I talked about a little earlier. All of these are accretive, all of these are choices customers have in a very logical way in the platform to grow their resilience profile. Okay, so it’s not about one or the other. It’s a natural extension of their ability to be and their desire to be more resilient as they mature in their journey.
Paramveer Singh
Got it. Thanks a lot, Sanjay. I’ll get back in line.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Thank you, Barbara.
Operator
Next question comes from the line of Rudy Kessinger with DA Davidson. Your line is open.
Rudy Kessinger
Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions again. I’ll add my for graphs in the quarter, the organic AR growth acceleration is very impressive. The rule of 40, improvement, et cetera. So very nice numbers here. I want to go back to maybe a question I was asked earlier. I know you said I think maybe 30% of your customers have two plus SaaS products. I guess put differently, I’m curious, when you look over your entire subscription customer base, just what percent of the data backup in recovery estate have you captured at this point? Like how much cross sell and upsell room is there not just on SaaS but on term license as well that continue to expand with those existing customers
Sanjay Mirchandani
Without giving too much away. Rudy, because this is a competitive space, this is a competitive area for us. As Jen mentioned, cross sell is a massive opportunity for us. The offerings that we’ve released, let’s say just in the last 12 months and the pipeline that we have coming out over the next six to 12 months gives us an unprecedented opportunity to go in and very seamlessly give customers access to all of that, all these new feature sets inside of the platform. So whether the customer is using software predominantly and a little bit of SaaS or using landed with us with SAS looking at some of our more data center capabilities. Our platform is designed for hybrid multi cloud scenarios and we do it broader and deeper than anyone else.
So short answer, without giving too much away is everything we’re building aligns very well with the way the customer grows their resilience profile with us on the compound cloud platform. So if you take it apart, you’ll see how these offers are tightly integrated and quite seamless in their in the way for customers to embrace and roll out.
Rudy Kessinger
Okay, and then Jen, really appreciate these constant currency disclosures, I guess in your revised fiscal 25 AR growth guidance of 19 to 20%, what is that at constant currency?
Jen DiRico
So I think the best way to think about overall the ARR acceleration is if I go back to the 30 million that we quarter over quarter is the best way to think about that. And ultimately the guidance is based off of this quarter’s fx.
Rudy Kessinger
Okay, got it, thank you.
Operator
Next question comes from the line of Howard Ma with Guggenheim Security. Your line is open.
Howard Ma
Great, thank you. And I want to add my congratulations as well on a strong quarter. I have one for Sanjay, one for Jen. So for Sanjay. And it’s related to, it’s like a subset of the prior question. What is your sense of the Greenfield opportunity for protecting SaaS apps and cloud native workloads so really on the cloud side specifically that are not already protected by a third party vendor. And as it relates to commvault, as commvault continues to expand your breadth of offerings and it’s really been impressive. So Google Workspace, Active Directory, Pranax could this do you think are you guys is one scenario that you guys could accelerate SaaS net new AR going forward?
Sanjay Mirchandani
Yes. Short answer is yes, Howard, I absolutely believe that we are so focused on being a true hybrid multi cloud provider for our customers that there’s no workload and no cloud left behind. We’re doing as much as we can to really broaden our offerings on the. Cloud and then go as deep as we can with all the clouds. This quarter we announced much deeper partnerships with AWS. The Plumio acquisition furthered our capabilities with S3 on AWS, Google Workspace more recently on the app side and we’ve always supported Azure great length alongside oci. So it’s no secret.
We believe that the more we have both depth and breadth for cloud native offerings, cloud first offerings for our customers, the safer they are. A lot of customers actually cloud data is the one that’s left exposed as customers move to the cloud, get more sophisticated in their offerings, go beyond snapshots, offerings like our Rewind, which was the Pranix acquisition. And it’s hard really allow customers to not only in a single click, protect the application, the data, the prioritization of the resources, the configuration, and then be able to test and bring it back at will across clouds.
So there’s a lot we’ve built and there’s a lot we continue to build in there. Backtrack, for example, the ability to bring back billions of objects to a prior version in a fraction of the time it would take you to even fathom. What happened is these are all groundbreaking capabilities, all cloud first and we’ll continue to drive that and make it seamlessly available through the platform to even our software based customers. The customers that are still primarily in their own data centers can avail of these capabilities seamlessly through Commvault Cloud and continue to grow with us, whether it be Office365, Air Gap storage, clean room capabilities, Active directory, seamless.
Howard Ma
That’s really good color, Sanjay. And it’s very encouraging. In our own checks people have told us that the Appranix and Plumio technologies are pretty unique. I said I had a follow up for Jen. It’s actually, it’s related to Rudy’s second question too. I promise we did not brainstorm before this. I also want to, I want to ask the FX, they totally are FX question another way because if you look at Q2, the Q2 I believe the impact was a, it was a 1 point tailwind. Right.
And then in Q3 you just disclosed it’s a 3 point headwind. That’s like a 4 point swing and so is the right way to think about the total AR guide. The raise, maybe it’s more like a 4 to 5 point raise instead of, instead of 1 to 2 reported. I don’t know if that’s a right. I don’t know if I’m doing the math right or wrong there.
Jen DiRico
Yeah, I think you’re definitely in the ballpark. But I would just go, I would encourage you to go back to the appendix in the investor relations presentation where we state, like you said in prior quarter, the organic on a constant currency basis, NET new error was 37 and then this quarter, 38. And so I think overall the third quarter. 30 plus or minus is the right way to think about the continued growth.
Howard Ma
Sorry, one last thing, Jen. Is that, does that 38, does that include Clumio or is that organic constant currency or is that constant currency?
Jen DiRico
That’s truly organic. Net new ARR at constant currency. In addition to the 38, we added 24 million from Clumio.
Howard Ma
Okay, got it. Thanks so much for clarifying it.
Jen DiRico
You’re very welcome.
Operator
Next question comes from the line of James Fish with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
James Fish
Hey guys. You guys have seen much consolidation in calendar 24 in the space, including a few deals yourselves. Sanjay, for you. How are you thinking about the opportunity for further consolidation? And Jen, on your side, not to continue to talk about this, but if I take Clumio and given the disclosures around the Pranix in the filings and factor in the FX changes, we’re getting closer to 17% organic constant currency growth, which is actually similar to the last few quarters. Is that the right way to really think about sustainable growth for the business? Especially as you’re talking about, you know, the, the billion target being achieved earlier than expected.
Sanjay Mirchandani
I’ll go first, I’ll go first. Jim, you know your question around consolidation. Do we think, how do we, how do I think about further consolidation? I mean, you know, if you. We’re looking, we’re looking forward and when we look forward on the platform, there are areas that we definitely think, whether it be AI based data sets, AI backed application backup, large data lakes, they’re going to require very different technologies to protect and be resilient with than, than something we did five years ago or even three years ago or something we did with Kubernetes three years ago. So one size doesn’t fit all. And as much as our innovation engine is on fire, there are some good technologies out there, like Plumio, like Acramix that actually bring incredible value to our customers very quickly.
I also believe that, I also believe that in this business and we’re seeing a lot of focus on our space now. You know, we were the only player in the public markets for long, long time. And what we learned, if we learned anything, was clearly single workloads don’t win. You need breadth and depth of workloads and environments to really be valuable to customers because that’s how you protect. You can’t have partial. You need to be completely covered and completely resilient. So we think that that’s going to be key too. And we’re very happy with the acquisitions we’ve made. The Afranics In a few months, we’ve doubled the revenue, the contribution from that. And with Plumio, everything we’ve seen is great and the pipeline is growing.
Jen DiRico
Thanks, Sanjay. And then Jim, to your second question. First of all, I would highlight the fact that, yes, you’re right, our FY25 results include not only our organic performance and a few points from Clumio. And so we sit at between 17 or 18% on an organic growth rate. As you think about going forward, I think 15% ARR growth year over year is not a bad place for you to be. As we think about just overall, our organic continued contribution, we’ll have more. That’s helpful and we’ll share more next quarter.
James Fish
Sounds good, Sanjay. Just circling back, you know, some concerns. Obviously we’re talking about, you know, IP budgets for 25 here, but there’s some concerns around how Europe looks. So how should we think about the growth in Europe this year versus last, especially in light of a lot of those entities having to go through the DORA regulation this past month?
Sanjay Mirchandani
Yes, I mean, DORA has been coming for a while. So you know, we’ve been working with customers for, you know, not this quarter. We didn’t start this quarter. We’ve been working for a while to really make sure that they were ready for the compliance that they had to do. As an example. And all over the world there’s different regulation that customers have to abide by. You know, we had, if you looked at our business this past quarter, it was quite evenly spread between the Americas and international. Europe actually had a pretty good quarter for us this last quarter. And you know, without getting too much into 20, our fiscal year 26 and the rest of calendar year 25, you know, we’re looking, we’re not looking at any substantial changes between our assumptions so far.
Operator
Next question comes from the line of Thomas Blakey with Kantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.
Unidentified Participant
Hey guys, thanks for squeezing me in here. Great quarter. My question is on term license. My first question is on term license. I just wanted to double click on that. Sanjay, if you could like, what are you seeing in terms of renewal conversations? How are those going? And specifically want to know about the color related to expansion. You called out expansion. Obviously it’s working on the SaaS side, but on the term license side specifically, how is cyber kind of helping with term license renewals? How did the renewal pipeline look? And in the past capacity has been the main driver here. Kind of 100, 510% NRR. What can we expect here and what are you kind of seeing in the near term? I have a follow up,
Jen DiRico
So I’ll start and just let you know that on a Software term license, Q3 was very, very strong for us. We continue to see strong. Strong inflows. Q3 has historically been a strong renewal quarter for us and that continues to be the case. And overall from an NRR perspective, that 105 to 110% is still absolutely the right ballpark.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Yeah. And more qualitatively what we’ve done is this year we’ve built out a customer success organization that is working very closely with our, with our customer base on making sure that they are resilient, that they have the latest and greatest technology they’re enabled and that we’re working closely with them to make sure that the best of what we have they have access to.
So that’s helping really with the conversations around renewals, pipeline around renewals. Our newer offerings are very especially the ones that give them air gap protect which is our immutable storage, gives them active directory protection. These are very accessible and important add ons that enable the cycle. So far, as Jen said quantitatively, our renewals last quarter, that’s all we could talk about were super healthy and we think they’re going to continue to be a solid business process.
Unidentified Participant
And just to qualify there or summarize there before I get to the second question, with all the new product and packaging that Gary’s working on, all these new cyber products on the term license side specifically, can we expect kind of maybe that 105.10 to expand going forward? Not without offering guidance. And just again I’m wondering qualitatively from your conversations,
Jen DiRico
Sanjay, I think I’ll step in here. I think the best way to think about our overall NRR for software is still in the 105 to 110. What I would point you to is the opportunity to support our both hybrid workloads and our SaaS NRR of 127% and the opportunity to continue to push our cross sell motion.
Unidentified Participant
That’s super impressive and thank you for that. Jenna, follow up question is on margins like everybody else has been harping on. I just wanted to say if we kind of look out first and foremost, what was the Clumio kind of headwind on maybe operating margin here in the current and next quarter, especially the next quarter that we’re in now and if you look out kind of fiscal 26, Jennifer, how are you balancing growth and operating leverage there with all the moving parts there? That’d be helpful and thank you again.
Jen DiRico
Great quarter, great question. So first I’ll answer the question around clumio. We said it would be dilutive for a couple of quarters, two or three quarters, I would say a point or two is the right way to think about dilution on the margin side of things. But if I zoom out and think about continued investment. You heard both Sanjay and I talk about the fact that the market is absolutely growing for cyber resiliency products. The demand for our. Our commvault cloud products absolutely resonating.
We continue to see robust demand from our customers and also we see really strong execution from our own team. Increased close rates, double digit productivity. All that to say that when we’re in a decision, we win the majority of the time. And so as we think about FY26 investments, of course we will be balanced. But at the same time, we know that we want to be in incrementally even more decisions because we know the market. It’s the right time for us to continue to capture market share.
Sanjay Mirchandani
And, you know, at the risk of repeating ourselves, we’re clipping the rule of 40 consistently and that’s, you know, we’re very proud of that because as much as we, you know, we’re growing 21% on the top line, you know, margins still are very, very healthy and, you know, we’re making balanced investments. We’ve always said responsible growth and we’re continuing with that trajectory.
Unidentified Participant
Very impressive.
Sanjay Mirchandani
Thank you.
Operator
And our last question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Aaron Rakers
Yeah, thanks for the follow up. I wanted to go just on a partner ecosystem. You mentioned, obviously this last quarter, announcing engagement with AWS with commvault cloud platform. You also referenced Microsoft Active Directory. I’m curious, as you think about these opportunities, Sanjay, does it take a while to see these start to come to fruition as far as revenue, incremental revenue opportunities? Or do you think that we should be considering that as an incremental driver already starting in this current and maybe into the June quarter? I’m just curious how you think about the ramp of those opportunities.
Sanjay Mirchandani
It takes time. It takes time because you build it. You’ve got to make sure that the customer understands it. It fits into their cycle. So it does take a little bit of time. Some go faster than others. We’ve been very, very pleased with Active Directory as an example. That one has a lot of quick wins. Customers see the value, they’re able to put it into place quickly at the right price point. So for some it’s a lot easier as a workload to absorb.
We think it took us a while to get it all done. But Google Workspace also, that’s one where I think that was built out of customer demand. And so all of this, I think has a ramp. Nothing happens overnight. It has a ramp. And one of the other things that we’re also investing in that’s important because accessibility for customers, ease of use in deploying marketplaces, hyperscale marketplaces. So whether it’s the Microsoft Marketplace or the AWS Marketplace. Supporting those also enables us to be able to get product. Into the hands of customers faster because it’s a natural way for them to acquire.
Aaron Rakers
Yep. And as a quick follow up, just characterization of the competitive landscape, who do you see the most and who do you see as the kind of opportunity set that you’re able to displace?
Sanjay Mirchandani
We have been very clear that what we focus on is resilience. And resilience equates to the customer’s ability to recover their business, their continuous capabilities, their connected businesses. We do that in a scalable way within a hybrid, multi cloud enterprise people parts of that they don’t do. Everything we do with the scale we do with that, which is why we’ve been here in the public market since 2006, very clearly good at what we do. We have 1100 patents in that space.
So we take that innovation and we take the way we bring things to market v1ery, very seriously. So cleanroom, backtrack, you know, these sort of technologies I don’t think are available with our competitors. So our job, Fedramp high. We’re the only ones who have that certification. These are the kinds of things that make us very different and valuable, I believe, to our customers. So we’re going to keep going that route. We’re going to keep separating ourselves with great innovation and you know, and we look, you know, we’re kind of excited about the future.
Aaron Rakers
Thank you.
Operator
That concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Melnick for closing remarks.
Michael J. Melnyk
Thank you everyone for joining this morning. As a reminder, you can look at our earnings presentation available on the investor relations website to get a constant currency bridge and we’ll be available for questions and feel free to reach out. Thank you again,
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.