CTS Corp  (NYSE: CTS) Q1 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

CTS Corp  (CTS) Q1 2020 earnings call dated Apr. 23, 2020

Corporate Participants:

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the CTS Corporation First Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I’ll turn the conference over to Kieran O’Sullivan. Please go ahead, sir.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Thank you, David. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. And welcome to CTS Corp’s first quarter 2020 conference call. I’ll start by sharing a few thoughts on our Company and on our business performance. It’s been a challenging first quarter for our employees, communities and our Company globally. Trained CTS employees have been impacted directly by COVID-19 and are returning to good health. Our hearts go out to the families affected by the virus. We are inspired by the health care and other essential service workers on the front lines and their relentless efforts to combat the virus. The uncertainty of COVID-19 impact weighs heavy. We’ve been dealing with COVID-19 in two China locations since early February and have been able to pass the key learnings quickly and effectively to all our European and American locations.

Sales in the first quarter were $103 million, down 12.4% versus the same period in 2019. We added six new customers in the quarter. First quarter adjusted gross margin was 31.9% compared to 34.5% in the same period last year. The adjusted EBITDA margin of 15% was down from 19.2% in the same period last year. First quarter adjusted earnings per share of $0.19 were down from $0.39 in the first quarter of 2019. Our balance sheet is strong. We had $151 million in debt and $151 million in cash at the end of the quarter at zero net debt position. We have made changes to adapt our business and continued to monitor conditions carefully. While the challenges of COVID-19 are unprecedented, we are working to position CTS to emerge from this recession a stronger company.

Ashish Agrawal is with me for today’s call and will take us through the safe harbor statement. Ashish?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I would like to remind our listeners that this conference call contains forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties is contained in the press release issued today and more information can be found in the Company’s SEC filings. To the extent that today’s discussion refers to any non-GAAP measures under Regulation G, the required explanations and reconciliations are available in the Investors section of the CTS website.

I will now turn the discussion back over to our CEO, Kieran O’Sullivan.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Thank you, Ashish. As we work through this challenging environment, our first focus is the safety of our employees. We have taken steps to ensure compliance with local regulations and have taken additional steps for employee safety in our locations that continue to operate. We are working closely with our customers to meet their requirements to the best of our abilities.

To reduce operating expenses, we have implemented temporary pay reductions, temporarily eliminated for 401(k) match, planned shutdowns, planned furloughs and a reduction in Board cash compensation. We will continue to evaluate further steps to optimize our cost structure, and we’ll update you on our progress. We are prioritizing capital spend for growth projects and have applied the brakes in all other areas on managing inventory and receivables. During this process, my CTS coworkers across the world have displayed tremendous devotion to the Company and its customers. We have stepped up to adapt to new ways of conducting business, displayed cooperation and understanding for the cost reduction efforts and have demonstrated resiliency in these tough conditions. As a team, we have taken the learnings from our early experiences in the January/February time frame from our China locations and implemented safety measures at our other locations across the world. We are maintaining our focus on the growth of our business as a key strategic priority and continued to expand our range of sensing, connectivity and motion products.

New business awards were $105 million for the quarter, which was a solid performance given most regions last three to four weeks in the quarter, due to OEM shutdowns. We secured large awards in accelerator modules, one with the Japanese OEM and two with Chinese OEMs for the local market and a win for an application in commercial vehicles. In North America, we were awarded a contract for a ride height chassis sensor application. In ceramics, we had wins in intravascular, medical ultrasound, flow metering and defense undersea applications. In total, wins outside the transportation end market were approximately $46 million.

We see opportunities in this challenging market to gain new sales despite the strong headwinds in automotive. Demand for medical respirators is driving volume for our temperature sensors and CPAP machines require our analog and digital recorders. Military communications with RF sensor products and speciality frequency applications are an area of focus where we’re gaining traction. With our first win in commercial vehicle accelerator modules, we are exploring architectures to scale more cost effectively as applications tend to be unique and designed. We are advancing innovations to hybrid vehicles and electric vehicles. So we are investigating content growth for pedals, current sensing, e-break [Phonetic] and thermal applications. As previously reported, we continue to progress on pre-development engagements on RF sensing to reduce harmful emissions and protect our environment.

With ceramic material formulations, we are innovating with new textured [Indecipherable] formulations with the first award for military applications. We continue to maintain a disciplined approach to innovations and product development and have take some security biometrics for consumer electronic applications.

Making further progress in our end-market profile is a strategic priority for us. We continue to evaluate our portfolio of products and technologies, while we work to strengthen our M&A pipeline. We have good liquidity and balance sheet capability. We aim to emerge from this recession stronger and to advance our end-market profile in an environment where valuations may be favorable for acquiring companies. We remain focused on adding the right technologies, expanding our geographic reach and strengthening our product portfolio and customer relationships. One of the key learnings for us with the temperature sensing acquisition is the ability to improve front-end sales effectiveness for our other electronic component product lines. We are adopting these best practices with a goal to improve our ability to win new business.

Last year, we reported the difficulties we encountered in our ceramic foundry operation. We saw good progress and continued to improve this year. We are also focused on increasing operational efficiency in our temperature sensor manufacturing operations in Mexico. The ERP rollout continues and will position us to gain further efficiencies beyond 2020 in various aspects of our supply chain and support structure. To this end, we are evaluating a shared services plan across the regions to be more efficient. Fixed cost and operational expense reductions are always in view as we aim to live our core value of simplification. End-markets were challenging in the first quarter of 2020. We expect the most challenging period this year to be the second quarter as the full impact of COVID-19 is realized. Transportation market demand is expected to be down in the 20% to 40% range in the second quarter depending on the region. For the full year, we expect a decrease in the range of 10% to 20% globally with some forecasts in a higher range. We are closely monitoring demand in other end-markets given the evolving dynamics. We expect a slow, steady recovery in the second half of the year with the recovery lingering into 2021.

Medical and defense markets remain robust. We are also seeing some incremental opportunities in medical ultrasound, temperature and position sensors for ventilators and respirators. Sales to the aerospace and defense end-market increased to 9% of total revenues in the first quarter, up from 6% last year. Profitable growth, margin improvement, ERP implementation and progress on our end-market profile remain priorities for us this year. This year, we are initiating our drive for 2025 goals for CTS, focused on four key areas, profitable growth and portfolio management; working more closely with our customers and aligning on technology and product road maps; building the capability of CTS operating systems to be more consistent globally to enhance our continuous improvement capabilities and results orientation; and finally, enhancing our organizational capability through leadership and cultural programs aligned with our business performance, our values, communities and environmental priorities. We will update you annually on our progress.

Due to the continuing uncertainties from COVID-19, we have withdrawn guidance for 2020. As we have said, we expect the second quarter to be more challenging with some recovery over the following quarters. Again, I want to emphasize our strong liquidity and cash position, as well as our drive to emerge from this recession a stronger company. At this time, Ashish will walk us through the financial performance. Ashish?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Ken. First quarter sales were $103.1 million, down 12.4% compared to the prior year. Sales to transportation customers decreased by 22%, and sales to other end-markets increased by 7.1%, due to the addition of $5.6 million in sales from our temperature sensing acquisition. Organic sales were down 17.1%. Our gross margin was 31.9% for the first quarter. Lower volumes impacted gross margin. As Kieran mentioned, we are starting to see improvements in our ceramic foundry operation and expect further operational improvements during the next quarter. Our first quarter 2020 earnings were $0.12 per diluted share. Adjusted earnings per diluted share were $0.19, down $0.20 compared to the first quarter of last year. As volumes are declining due to the impact of COVID-19, we have taken steps to reduce costs where possible through temporary payroll suspension of 401(k) contributions, furloughs, plant shutdowns and control over all discretionary spending. We expect the second quarter to be significantly impacted due to the shutdown and stay-at-home orders in most countries with potential for a slow recovery in the third and fourth quarter of the year.

On cash, CTS remains well funded. At the end of March, we had $151 million in cash on our balance sheet. Our debt balance was $151 million. Overall, we had zero net debt. We have access to an additional $147 million through our revolving credit facility. We have taken measures to ensure we have adequate liquidity for the next several quarters at all our sites around the world in order to manage through this difficult situation. In March, we borrowed $50 million from our credit facility. Including this additional debt, we remain well within our debt covenants. And at this time, it is our expectation that we will remain compliant.

Our controllable working capital as a percent of sales was 17% in the first quarter. The increase was driven primarily due to the sharp slowdown in volume in the second half of March. We are focusing on actions to reduce working capital over the next quarters. Our focus was primarily on reducing inventory levels across our operation. We have also enhanced our efforts on credit and receivable collection as we operate in an environment where many companies are cash constrained. We generated $11.9 million in operating cash flow in the first quarter. Our capex was $4.6 million. We are prioritizing capex spend on the most critical and strategically important programs. Our goal is to reduce capital spend by 25% to 30% to under $15 million for 2020.

We are continuing to implement SAP and went live successfully at another large manufacturing location beginning of March. Due to current limitations on operations and travel, we are adapting our plans and have delayed the target date for the next go-live to the third quarter. As a result of this push-out, our target date for completion has moved into the middle of 2021. We are taking steps to manage costs related to the implementation.

This concludes our prepared comments. We would like to open the line for questions at this time.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. The question-and-answer session will be conducted electronically. [Operator Instructions] And we’ll take our first question from Brian Colley with Stephens.

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Hi, Brian.

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

So first — Hi, so you gave some good commentary around expected trends in the transportation end-market for the second quarter and the full year. Just curious if you can offer some similar commentary on what you see for your other end-markets for 2Q and the full year, and also if you could talk a little bit about demand trends and how the business is performing so far in April.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, Brian, on the automotive side, just to recap, we were down about 22%. We saw the market down somewhere in the region of 24% in the first quarter/second quarter. And we said 20% to 40% down. It was different across the regions. For the year, we said 10% to 20% range. We’ve seen some forecast around 23% for the year and that’s difference in each of the regions, but we’re prepared for those situations. On the non-automotive markets, we’re feeling pretty good, but we’re also being cautious because we don’t know what the effects are, if you look at beyond two months, three months. So that side of things is running reasonably well. And as I said, we’ve got opportunities to gain some new sales. Some of those may be short term, but we’re looking for opportunities on longer-term contracts.

We’re pretty pleased with our new business awards and you saw that they were strong in the sense of solid performance in a quarter where and we just had three weeks of shutdowns and orders were — our contracts were not being awarded. And our non-transportation performance was very solid there. So again, we feel good about the non-transportation side, but we’re also cautious because it’s an evolving market at this time.

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful. And then, second question, I know the timing of recovery is something that’s impossible to predict at this point, but whenever we do see things and quite positively whether it’s later this year or next year, can you talk about the areas of the business where you would expect to see a sharper snapback in more of a V-shaped recovery versus the areas where the recovery can be more prolonged?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, so on the transportation side, it’s going to be tough in the second quarter. We think there will be a slow improvement. If you look at the forecast that are coming out there every week, they are evolving. And I think when you look at big ticket items like vehicles and with the unemployment levels and changes, it’s going to take some time. Now, fortunately out there, you can buy vehicles online these days. So it helps a little bit in the process versus the dealership, but it will be a slow steady recovery, not a quick flip back.

On some of the other areas, we’re seeing good progress in the ceramic product line and in the electronic components, and we’ve got some new products in 5G where we’re making some progress. I mentioned that on RF in certain applications, not just in telecom, but in military applications for frequency and for 5G, we see good demand there and a steady performance in medical as well. So obviously, we’re continuing to evaluate, but those areas are still a little better.

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

Got it. And then, last question just on the cost structure, curious if you guys could maybe quantify the costs that you’ve taken out in response to COVID so far and then just, as you think about additional expense reductions, it sounds like you guys are kind of planning for macro scenario where we have kind of a slow, steady recovery in the back half, but if we do see a more prolonged recovery, do you guys have the ability to take another step function down in the cost structure?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, Brian, as we talked about, we took some cost actions in the fourth quarter last year when we had started seeing some slowdown in our commercial vehicle end-market, and we have taken additional steps, which we talked about on the earnings call today. We are staying away from trying to quantify the full impact from those cost actions because we are considering them as temporary based on market conditions. And at the same time, we are looking at additional options in terms of how we could take further steps down, if the market conditions evolve unfavorably from a volume standpoint. So all of those things are in our playbook from that standpoint. And we will take the additional steps at the right time.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

And Brian, just to add a little bit to what Ashish said, obviously, our employees are helping out here in this situation, and we want to make sure things improve that we are fair with our employees as well. And on the flip side, to your point, as you look at beyond a few quarters here, how is demand, is it a new world versus capacity that you have to date? That’s something that you’ve got to be constantly analyzing and planning for. And I think that’s what Ashish is also pointing towards the [Indecipherable].

Brian Colley — Stephens — Analyst

That makes sense. I’ll leave it there. I appreciate the time [Indecipherable].

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Thank you, Brian.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

And next, we’ll go to Karl Ackerman with Cowen.

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Good morning, gentlemen. Two questions if I may, first is on manufacturing. Is there anyway to impact to margins were for work stoppage orders at various manufacturing facilities? And are your manufacturing facilities in Mexico fully functional or not?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

No.

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

Are you able to alleviate some of those bottlenecks in other geographical manufacturing locations?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Are you able to alleviate some of those bottlenecks in other geographical manufacturing locations?

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

Sure. Yes, I just wondering — I was hoping you could quantify what the impact to your margins were from these factory shutdowns will be in orders, particularly within your non-US based facilities. And are those factories at this point fully functional and if not, are you able to alleviate some of those bottlenecks in your US-based locations?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, Karl, if we got your question right, you’re asking about the margin impact and how much we can protect as we navigate through this situation. You saw that our gross margin declined somewhat in the first quarter as the volumes dropped. We are looking at ways where we can reduce manufacturing costs, and we are also making sure that we stay compliant with any local requirements, which may prevent us from being able to fully reduce cost just based on country-by-country different regulation that we have to comply with. And as we move forward, the same situation will continue to evolve in terms of — as Kieran mentioned, what does the volume scenario look like, and then based on that, we’ll be looking to manage our cost structure as best as we can.

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

Thank you.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

To give you some color on the locations, if you look to Asia, we obviously were down during the shutdown in China. Those facilities were back up and running since about mid-March at full level. Our Taiwan facility has been running all the way through. And when you come to Europe, we’ve had some shutdowns, and we’re back in operation there, and if you come to North America, we’re running some medical products continuously. And Mexico operations have been impacted. And we’re waiting for some clarity on that. What is clear is with the volumes in automotive, we will have furloughs in our facilities as we go through the second quarter.

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

That’s helpful. Maybe just a follow-up to margins, I understand factory utilization is challenged given some of the supply chain disruptions year-to-date, which is probably continued trajectory, but from here, it was helpful to talk about some of the end-market dynamics going forward, but sort of margin recovery will be dictated by sales moment in transportation or are there other one-time supply chain costs you’ve incurred year-to-date that may abate over the next few quarters that should provide a margin tailwind? Thank you.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Karl, the primary driver is going to be recovery in volumes. And as Kieran mentioned and I covered as well, we are seeing some underlying improvement in some problem areas that we had last year, but that’s going to be tempered with what we are seeing on the volume front.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Karl, the other thing I’d add there that we’re doing is we’re looking at the heat maps globally in terms of — first of all, we’ve got inventory that we need to obviously burn down, but we’re also very focused on those heat maps in terms of critical components. Is there a component that there that can shut down that we need to planning for. And at the same time, we’re also looking at the front-end of the business, to say, do we have competitors that are in trouble, is there an opportunity for us to get stronger gain share because there is both ends of the of the supply chain. On the front end, we need to be flexing to make sure we operate to the maximum availability.

Karl Ackerman — Cowen & Co. — Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next, we’ll go to John Franzreb with Sidoti.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Good morning, guys. So with an easy one, how many of facilities are fully operational today?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Hey, it’s a dynamic situation. But just to give you a better color, John, from what I said, we’ve got three facilities running in Asia; we got three running in Europe somewhat at different levels; and we’ve got two running in North America, one not. And then in Mexico, we’ve got three — four in Mexico, of which three are fully shut down, one is — sorry, two are fully shutdown and two are partial.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Okay. And can you just walk me through the dynamics how the restart in your China facilities kind of looked like and what you learned in that lesson that you can apply to when the restart happens here in North America?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

John, that was — that’s something that was really beneficial to us. Our teams in China did an excellent job coming back in very difficult circumstances, and we really took the learnings from them. They were the first ones getting back. It didn’t — it wasn’t a digital back on. It was a slow ramp. It took several weeks for us to ramp up. We had some employees who were trapped in areas that were not prune to travel obviously. So we had to flex. We did things from first of all different monitoring and safety considerations, the cleaning in our facilities to make sure we protect our employees, our cross training that we’ve done and cross training that we added on to flex and introduce people to that production lines in a controlled manner was very important, and we’ve taken those lessons and also applied them to our locations in Europe and in the Americas as well.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

The other thing that I would add, as you mentioned earlier Kieran, the heat map to ensure that we can adequately secure supply. Other suppliers that are critical, we are working to make sure that to the extent possible, we can keep our supply lines open, so that we can produce product when we are able to get back up and running.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

And John, the other aspect that was pretty important there was with our customers and obviously, we have some finished goods, but knowing their demands and making sure we were aligned with their startup plans was extremely important, so that they knew our ability to flex and support them and have the confidence in coming back to CTS.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

So do you produce right now for the transportation market here in North America even though they’re not taking products or are they taking products?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

So we have some product that goes into critical transportation like ambulances or fire engines. So some of those products are still moving at lower volumes. And so, hopefully, that helps you get an understanding.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Okay. And regarding the medical market, my understanding that the elective procedure is being deferred, a lot of the medical suppliers are getting hit pretty badly. It doesn’t seem to be the case with you. Is that because of temperature sensor is doing well, or have you not just seen it yet?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

So we’re being very careful and that’s why our comments on growth at the transportation, what we see is reasonable, but we’re also very concerned. When you look at beyond four to eight weeks, what could be changing in demand that we haven’t seen yet and obviously, when you think about our temperature sensors, they go into food and other areas, support restaurants, what’s happening there. On the flip side, on medical respirators and medical ultrasound, we’ve seen solid demand and seen some increasing demand as well. But we are very cautious there in terms of understanding what the longer-term demand is.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Okay. Can you provide me what your debt covenants are Ashish?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So John, the primary debt covenant that we monitor carefully is the gross debt-to-EBITDA and the upper limit is 3.5 times. And at this point, we are well under 2. And as I mentioned, we had borrowed $50 million of additional beyond what we would normally be borrowing and that is why the covenant is a little bit higher than what it normally would be. So we expect to stay within our covenants. And at least at this point in time, we are not seeing a risk of having any problems on the covenant side.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Okay. So that $137 million you have left on your revolver, did that include the $50 million?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

$147 million.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Sorry, say it again.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So after having borrowed the $50 million, we have another $147 million available under the existing facility.

John Franzreb — Sidoti & Company, LLC — Analyst

Okay. All right, great. All right, thank you. Thank you. Actually, I’ll stop here and let other people ask questions. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Thanks, John.

Operator

Next, we’ll go to Hendi Susanto with Gabelli.

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Good morning, Kieran. Good morning, Ashish.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Good morning, Hendi.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hi, Hendi.

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Kieran, can you talk more about China like I think we read news that some customers in China have reframed back to like higher level of production. So what are you seeing in China in terms of current market demand and then feasibility?

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

What we’re seeing is on the transportation side, we’re — our facility has moved back up. We’re running as normal. And we are looking out in terms of what does the end of the second quarter look like, and what was the third quarter be like. I was on with our plant there last night, and we saw some new incentives coming into the marketplace in China, where they are incentivizing cleaner fuels like hybrid and electric as some of those subsidies won’t come until 2021. So we expect some impact as we go into next year. And on some other areas, we’ve seen some softness in two-wheeler markets as we expect some of that to rebound, but more slowly.

On the component side, we’ve — other than that, we’ve seen pretty steady performance. And so again, it’s a little bit of a mix, as you can tell, but we’re being careful and cautious because it’s an evolving situation still.

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Got it. Thank you, Kieran. And then Ashish, is it reasonable to assume that share buyback will be temporarily suspended?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So Hendi, we are discussing with our Board on what the appropriate steps are to take and as decisions get made, we will talk about that.

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Got it. And then, one more question, Ashish. So when we look at Nodiac [Phonetic] acquisitions, how do you distribute the sales when you report like individual segment, like how much of that is in industrial, how much of that in, let’s say, like medical and transportation, etc.?

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, Hendi, for the different end-markets, which acquisition are you referring to? I thought I heard you say Noliac, but…

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Noliac, Noliac. I’m sorry.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Are you referring to the most recent one we made or Noliac?

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

I’m sorry. No, QTI. I mean, QTI.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I see. Okay, okay. So QTI, the primary end-market, they go into is industrial and a relatively smaller portion does go into defense end-market as well as medical relatively smaller portions, the primary end-market is industrial.

Hendi Susanto — Gabelli & Company — Analyst

Got it. Thank you, Ashish. Thank you, Kieran.

Ashish Agrawal — Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Hendi.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Thanks, Hendi.

Operator

I will turn the call back over to Mr. O’Sullivan for any additional or closing remarks.

Kieran O’Sullivan — President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board

Well, thank you for your participation in today’s call. I wish everybody to be safe, and we look forward to updating you again in our July update. Thank you very much.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]