Rollins, Inc Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Rollins, Inc (NYSE: ROL) Q4 2025 Earnings Call dated Feb. 12, 2026

Presentation

Operator

Welcome to Rollins Inc. Fourth Quarter. 2025 Earnings Conference Call at this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press Star0 on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lindsey Burton, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. Thank you. You may begin.

Lyndsey Burton — Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you. In addition to the earnings release that we issued yesterday, the Company has also prepared a supporting slide presentation. The earnings release and presentation are available on our website@www.rollins.com. we have included certain non GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion this morning. The non GAAP reconciliations are available in the appendix of today’s presentation as well as in our earnings release. The Company’s earnings release discusses the business outlook and contains certain forward looking statements. These particular forward looking statements and all other statements that will be made on this call, excluding historical facts, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from any statement we make today.

Please refer to yesterday’s press release and the company’s SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section of our Form 10K for the year ended December 31, 2025, which will be filed later today. On the line with me today and speaking are Jerry Galoff, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ken Krause, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Management will make some opening remarks and then we’ll open the line for your questions. Jerry, would you like to begin?

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Thank you, Lindsey. Good morning everyone. Fiscal 2025 was another solid year for Rollins as we achieved a milestone of $3.8 billion in revenue. As Ken will detail, we delivered double digit revenue earnings and cash flow growth, but we did have a tougher finish to the year. In the fourth quarter, early winter weather caused demand to soften, especially in the Midwest and Northeast, which impacted one time in certain seasonal projects. Across all three business lines, revenue from one time business in the quarter declined by almost 3% compared to year to date growth through the first nine months of the year of 4%.

Erratic weather patterns hindered demand for one time projects and at times made it difficult for us to service the demand that did come through. Organic growth in the recurring portion of our business and ancillary services, which represent over 80% of total revenue, was above 7% for both the quarter and the year. Our underlying markets remain healthy, customer retention rates are strong, and we are confident that nothing has fundamentally changed with respect to our end consumer Lower volumes in the quarter did hamper profitability, which can happen in shoulder seasons, particularly when weather gets choppy. It’s important that we maintain healthy staffing levels ahead of peak season so that we aren’t hiring, training and onboarding a large number of new teammates at the same time seasonal demand ramps up We’ve learned that extreme ramp ups in hiring drives teammate turnover rates higher and that will not yield the optimal experience for our customers.

This can impact productivity in the short term as it did in the fourth quarter, but it’s the right decision for the business long term as it sets us up to capitalize on peak season demand that’s right around the corner. Moving on to some highlights this year we prioritize getting better as we become bigger and made a number of investments throughout our business to support our teammates and enhance our customer experience. In support of our efforts around the Rollins Way, we are making significant investments to support the future growth of our company and establish consistent leadership behaviors across the enterprise.

Our talent and development team has designed a program called the CO Lab for All People Managers. Servant leadership is the foundation of these sessions where which are designed to help leaders enhance skills for personal development, team development and business growth. Our efforts here are intended to create a culture of cross brand collaboration and cross functional talent where teammates can seamlessly transfer between brands, divisions, our home office and field operations. This will further enhance career opportunities for our teammates and create a robust pipeline of future leaders who can not only sustain our growth but but also help us reach our full potential operationally.

We remain committed to hiring and developing top talent. The hiring environment was healthy in 2025 as we put significant energy into onboarding the right people in both support functions and the customer facing side of our business. We’re proud of the tenure and experience of our team as well as their engagement level and commitment to both our company and our customers. While overall teammate retention has been consistently healthy, we have made encouraging progress in improving retention of our newer teammates, specifically those who are with us for one year or less. While there’s still work to be done here, we saw teammate retention in this category improve by approximately 8% in 2025 and has improved nearly 18% since 2023 thanks to our ongoing efforts.

In 2025 we closed the acquisition of Sela and completed 26 additional tuck in deals. The performance of SELA has continued to exceed our expectations and integration has progressed very smoothly thanks to the efforts of our collective teams. We have a robust M and A pipeline with a number of opportunities that we are actively evaluating to drive Additional Growth as we look ahead to 2026. We are encouraged by the opportunities that are in front of us across all aspects of our business. We remain committed to providing our customers with the best customer experience and investing meaningfully in our team to drive growth both organically as well as through disciplined acquisitions.

We are pleased with where our business stands today and what lies ahead of us in 2026 and I want to thank each of our 22,000 plus teammates around the world for their efforts and contribution to our success in 2025. I’ll now turn the call over to Ken.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thanks Jerry and good morning everyone. Our results for the quarter and the year reflect continued solid execution by the Rollins team. Let me begin with a few highlights for 2025. First, we delivered robust revenue growth of 11% for the year with strong growth across each of our service offerings. Organic growth was 6.9% for the year while acquisitions continued to be a meaningful part of our growth profile. Second, despite making significant growth investments, adjusted EBITDA grew by 10.8% to $854 million. And finally, we delivered operating cash flow of 678 million and free cash flow of $650 million, up 11.6 and 12.1% respectively versus last year.

Cash flow was negatively impacted by an out of period tax payment of $22 million associated with the disaster relief measures that allowed us to defer our payment in the fourth quarter of last year to the first half of this year. Excluding this, free cash flow growth was approximately 20% for the year. Our strong cash flow performance enabled us to execute a balanced capital allocation Strategy, deploying over $880 million of capital in 2025 with a focus on investing for growth while returning cash to shareholders through our growing dividend and share repurchase. Turning to our fourth quarter performance, revenue in the fourth quarter was up 9.7% and organic growth was 5.7% versus last year.

In the fourth quarter, residential revenue increased 9.7%, commercial pest control increased 8.7% and termite and ancillary was up 11.9%. Organic growth was 5.7% in the quarter. Across all services, organic growth was 4.4% in residential, 6.4% in commercial and 7.6% in the termite and ancillary area. Growth across each category was negatively impacted by softer one time revenues. Unpacking organic growth further, it is important to look at the recurring and related ancillary service area versus our one time business. Recurring revenue in ancillary services which represent over 80% of our business, grew at over 7% organically. The remaining part of the portfolio, primarily one time work, declined almost 3% in Q4 after growing 4% through the first nine months of the year.

This business has more recently grown at approximately 1 to 2% annually. Weather was erratic in the quarter and had an impact here. Demand for one time services and the ability to service. This related demand was particularly subdued in November and December due to early winter weather. In the eastern half of the United States where we have significant location density, we see the slower growth in onetime as transitory, while the stability of growth in our recurring areas and ancillary areas gives us confidence in our outlook which continues to be anchored to 7 to 8% organic growth.

Gross margin was 51% in the quarter, a decrease of 30 basis points. Looking at our 4 major buckets of service costs, people fleet, materials and supplies and insurance and claims. Fleet expenses were higher as a percentage of revenue primarily due to due to timing of vehicle gains compared to last year. This represented 80 basis points of headwind in the quarter. Deleverage from people costs was driven by lower volume in the quarter. These pressures were partially offset by improvement in margins associated with insurance and claims as well as materials and supplies. SGA costs as a percentage of revenue increased by 50 basis points versus last year.

We continue to be bullish on our markets and related position and are making investments in our business that will enable long term value creation. Despite the lower volumes we realized in the quarter associated with the onetime business. This had a negative impact on SGA as a percentage of revenue in the quarter. Fourth quarter GAAP operating income was $160 million up 6.3% year over year. Adjusted operating income was $167 million up 8.1% versus last year. Quarterly EBITDA was $194 million and EBITDA margin was 21.2%. The effective tax rate was 24.7% for the quarter versus 27.3% last year and 24.9% for the full year period versus 26% in 2024.

The 2025 rate was lower primarily due to the great work our tax team has done to continue to improve our effective tax rate. Quarterly GAAP net income was $116 million or $0.24 per share. For the fourth quarter. We had non GAAP pre tax adjustments associated with acquisition related and other Items totaling approximately $6 million of pre tax expense in the quarter. Considering these adjustments, adjusted net income for the fourth quarter was $121 million or $0.25 per share, increasing just under 9% from the same period a year ago. Turning to cash flow in the balance sheet, operating cash flow decreased 12.4% in the quarter to $165 million.

As a reminder, cash flow in Q4 2024 benefited from a disaster relief measure granted to those with operations impacted by Hurricane Helene. That allowed us to Defer an estimated $22 million tax payment which was paid here in the second quarter of 2025. Free cash flow conversion the percent of income that was converted into free cash flow was 137%. For the quarter we generated $159 million of free cash flow on $116 million of earnings. We made acquisitions totaling $21 million and we paid 88 million in dividends in the fourth quarter. Dividend payments increased 11% from the prior year and and are at a healthy and very sustainable rate.

Including the recent increase announced in Q4, we’ve raised our regular dividend by more than 80% since the beginning of 2022. Additionally, we’ve invested approximately $200 million in share repurchases in the quarter, affirming our long term view on the value of our company. Our leverage ratio stands at 0.9 times. Our balance sheet remains very healthy and and positions us well to continue to execute our balanced approach to capital allocation, reinvesting in the business, growing our dividend as earnings and cash flow compound and pursuing share repurchases opportunistically. Throughout our history we have managed this business through an investment grade lens and will continue to do so in the future.

We are committed to maintaining a strong investment grade rating with leverage well under two times. We are encouraged as we look to 2026 and are focused on delivering another year of double digit revenue earnings and cash flow growth. We continue to expect organic growth in the range of 7 to 8% with additional growth from MA of at least 2 to 3%. While we may see weather impacts on the business from time to time, we remain committed to our long term growth outlook. Additionally, we are focused on improving our incremental margin profile while investing in growth opportunities.

We anticipate that cash flow will continue to convert at a rate that is above 100% again in 2026. With that, I’ll turn the call back over to Jerry.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Thank you Ken. We’re happy to take any questions at this time.

Question & Answers

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question que. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Please ask one question and one follow up question and re queue for additional questions. Our first question is from Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. Please proceed.

Tim Mulrooney — Analyst, William Blair

And Jerry, good morning.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Good morning, Tim.

Tim Mulrooney — Analyst, William Blair

Thanks for all the detail around the one time sales and the recurring base of business. It’s all very helpful to understand how the underlying business is performing. But I’m curious if you could expand a little bit more on that 7% growth that you’re seeing in the recurring and ancillary business. How do you get comfortable that that level of growth is sustainable heading into 2026? Can you provide any details on retention rate or net gains or customer wins, any of these underlying metrics that might help shed some additional light for us?

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Tim, this is Jerry. I’ll give you, I’ll walk you through a few of the main points on my mind and maybe Ken can add a little color to it. I think there’s a lot of data points that we have that, that give us that comfort, if you will, about the future. You know, in the fourth quarter we looked at our price increase data and we monitor that throughout the year and we look at what the consumer health is like. For example, we have really super low impact of things, percentages of rollbacks and things along those lines.

That gives us a great deal of confidence that our consumer is still healthy. It also indicates to us that we affirm our plan to continue to move forward with our pricing initiatives that we’ve laid out for ourselves to continue to use price as a lever as we move into 2026. So we’re very comfortable there. If you look at the customer retention side, it’s very stable. And we’ve also had some areas that have improved and looking specifically take Orkin for example, at the net gain of the customers that they carried at what they had at the end of the year.

But compared to the beginning of the year, they had the best performance in growing their customer base that they had since the COVID era. So that first year of COVID was everyone at home and signing up for services and they saw a really big net gain then and this is the best year since then. We look at things, monitor things like our close rates on customers calling in and that also tells you a little bit about the health of the consumer, you know, the health of our pricing programs, things like that. When we look at the leads and our closure rates, the closure rates, it’s up, it’s not down.

So we’re also seeing, for example, on ancillary business, our customers are not overly price sensitive and we have financing options that give them the ability to, to get the much needed work that they need done to give them peace of mind and allow them to pay over time. So we see all those, those are the things that we look at every single day. And it just gives us a lot of comfort. That’s why I can, that’s why I said, what I said fairly emphatically in my opening remarks, is that there’s nothing fundamental about our business that’s changed.

We’re going to keep doing what we do and trying to deliver the best service that we possibly can for our continuing growing customer base, because that’s the most important part of our business is the recurring piece. And that’s where we want to spend our marketing dollars, is creating recurring base. And that’s how we want to continue to invest in our business.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Tim, just to add on to what Jerry had mentioned there, another couple of points. If you look at the recurring organic business without ancillary, right. If you actually look at it even and unpack it even further, you actually saw 10 basis points more of growth in Q4 versus Q3. And so you actually seen that business hold in, and if anything, it strengthened a little bit between Q3 and Q4. The ancillary business still growing strong, high teens, mid teens, double digit. That business normally grows in that 20% range. When you can’t get people on the roof safely and you can’t get them out into the, into the work site, you’ll feel the pain and you’ll feel the impact there.

But that business, again, growing at mid to high teens, very healthy. And that’s the big ticket. That’s the nine shots on goal that I’ve talked about quite frequently with investors, is that we have all these opportunities and we continue to see good demand there. So I think those two things, I think especially that recurring revenue, which is 75% of our business strengthening by 10 or so basis points between Q3 and Q4, I think gives us a sense that the business is holding in there.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

And I think too, Ken, you think about Q4 of 2024 was our best quarter of 2024, and we were having to lap that and some little more challenging conditions. And we knew starting the year that was going to be a tougher comparable for us year over year. And you know, and certainly that Was. A little bit of a headwind for. Us to the last couple months of the year. Yeah, tough comp definitely. That’s definitely another aspect of this whole thing. So that’s all great color. Thank you. And I, you know, think you’re more comfortable with the fact that the underlying business is, is, is fine. This is all weather, weather related. Can you dive into this weather disruption by segment? Like was it more on the. I’m thinking about it more like hey, it would be on the resi and termite side more. But your resi business actually held in better than what I was expecting given the comp situation. But then I look at the commercial side and I saw Ecolab’s fourth quarter results. Their commercial pest business was fine in the fourth quarter. Doesn’t seem like they saw that disruption that you saw.

So I’m just trying to reconcile all that. Can you talk a little bit about impact by segments from that weather?

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, I’ll take that and then Jerry will add on to that as well. But I think just starting with commercial and looking at the commercial business, the commercial recurring business grew at 7.3% and so again we continue to see good demand there. The challenge was again one time business even in the commercial setting, which is roughly 15 of that business. So you certainly saw the one time impact on the commercial. You saw it in the residential, I mean our residential recurring business is holding in there and it’s strong and we feel good about it. But the one time business, the wildlife business and things like that certainly felt the impact of the slower, the challenging weather patterns.

And then on the termite you’re spot on the termite, the pre treat, that sort of work, you saw some weakness. The recurring, the bait and the recurring business continues to do very well. It continues to be a very healthy growth pace for us. But some of the pre treat one time termite you saw a little bit of weakness. And so I think when you frame it, we feel good about again all of the businesses and the recurring businesses coming through. We feel like the fact that we couldn’t get out, we couldn’t service, we couldn’t get that work done, that’s the, that caused the most significant impact on our revenue growth in the quarter.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

And Tim, and looking at the commercial side in particular, it was the commodity fumigation business that on the tail end of the year had, that’s the one that’s all one time work. And year over year we had a comp there that was, that was more challenging for us. And so again while our recurring Base in commercial continues to grow. It’s the one time in the isn’t the one time necessarily selling to our existing customer base, adding on programs and services. It was driven very heavily through commodity fumigation. And then when you look at the residential side, a lot of that is wildlife and some of the seasonal pests that we didn’t have as long of a window of time to get at.

Some of those seasonal pests that you know, take the fall pests, boxelder bugs and stink bugs and these kinds of things that are seasonal things that come up that we kind of rely on and get those one time calls to go take care of them or general pests just seeking indoor shelter. That season was just a little shorter and it was really more in the eastern seaboard parts of the Midwest. We didn’t see as strong of a trend in that in out west, in California and some of those other markets that remain very strong. So again that just tells us it’s the underlying business is still pretty strong.

It was there, but we were just impacted by this choppiness.

Tim Mulrooney — Analyst, William Blair

Understood commodity fume. I hadn’t even considered that. That fully explains it on the commercial side as well. So thank you for all the color gu. This is very helpful.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Manav Patnik with Barclays. Please proceed.

Manav Patnaik — Analyst, Barclays

Thank you. Yeah, I was hoping you could just put some numbers by segment as well. You know how you gave us the plus 4% year to date and then down 3% for fourth quarter just by segment as well. And also what’s the margin profile of this one time business? Just to consider that as well.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yes, that’s a great question Manav, and thank you for asking that. The margin profile on this one time business is oftentimes better than the margin on our recurring business because we’re pricing that business assuming that it’s not coming back. And so if you’re going to a customer knowing you’re going one time, you might get 2, 3, $400 for a service. The cost isn’t necessarily that different than it would be on a recurring service that you might be getting $150 or $200 for for example. So you see a much better margin profile on the one time business that has an impact on the overall results.

And I think, you know, again, it’s only 15% of the business. So I don’t want to overstate how much of an impact that had on margins. But, but it certainly is, it is margin accretive to our overall business.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

And I would Say it was. There’s some impact in every category. I think the residential side was probably hurt a little bit more, especially in things like wildlife and road work and things along those lines. And the ancillary and termite side. Some of that softness we’re able to get back because that just creates a workload that maybe we couldn’t get to and we sell it and still have some backlog that we carry into January thing. We carry it into January, things along those lines on some of that kind of work, but some of it you just never really make up.

You’re not going to make it up.

Manav Patnaik — Analyst, Barclays

Got it. And then just, you know, just so we’re not surprised in the next quarter as well. I mean, I know your full year guide is seven to eight, but just, you know, you talked about spillover into January. Just thoughts on what 1Q might look like relative to the rest of the year.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, it’s always hard. It’s such a short cycle business which can change on a dime. But what I would say is we still are firmly anchored in a 7 to 8% organic growth for the year. I would not be surprised if it’s a little bit slower to start the year because January we had more branches closed in January than we did a year ago because of some of the weather that we endured. But I do firmly believe the business still is going to be at that for the year at that 7 to 8% pace of growth.

Manav Patnaik — Analyst, Barclays

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Aneesh Sabhadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Ashish Sabadra

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. So maybe just a question on the margins, are there any puts and takes to be cognizant of as we think about the incremental margins in 26 and those margins of 25 to 30 are still below the midterm targets. So how should we think about the tailwinds not just in 26 but going forward to drive it closer to the midterm targets?

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thanks. Yeah, thanks for the question, Ashish. When I look at the overall margin profile and I think about 2020, I’ll take you through a few thoughts. One, pricing remains very healthy. Three to four percent pricing is very realistic to expect. That’s what we’re introducing across the portfolio, just like we had here in the past couple of years. Second, two thirds of our cost of services are people cost and we are really doing a lot better job at onboarding and training and, and keeping those new hires with us. That turnover and new hire is really expensive and we’re seeing improvements there that will be a tailwind for us as we go into 2026.

Third fleet cost second. Another large item on cost of services. You know, when we think about fleet in the 2025 financials, there was about a $17 million headwind. Sixth of that was in Q4 alone associated with the sale of leased vehicles. That should not be as much of a concern for 2026 as it was in 2025. And so when I think about the gross margin, I think there’s a lot of reasons to be optimistic in our ability to lift margins and improve margins in 2026. And then when I go down the P and L and I look at SGA and back office and all the work, there continues to be great opportunities there.

We’re launching a company wide systems implementation around our financial processes in 2026. We’ll start to see some benefits of that as we go throughout the year and into next year. So we remain very optimistic and confident in our ability to deliver that 25 to 30% margin profile.

Ashish Sabadra

That’s great. Color. And then maybe just on the competitive environment, a question that we get quite often is have you seen any change from a competitive perspective? Obviously the strength in recurring revenue seems to suggest that things are trending really well. But any color on that front will be helpful. Thank you.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

This is Jerry. We haven’t seen or heard too much in that arena. We are very internally focused on and we have lots of great competitors and new ones that pop up all the time. That keeps us on our toes and we wake up every day. Ready to. Fight another daily battle in that competitive space. This is a competitive industry and there are just so many out there. And it can be local, it can be regional. And so I wouldn’t characterize anything that we’ve seen really throughout 2025 as having any significant shift in the competitive environment.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Right. I mean, we continue to invest in the business in Q4. You saw that. And it’s not that we’re out allocating large amounts of capital to the digital side, but we continue to put more feet on the street. We continue to fund our door knocking areas which are our fastest growing areas. And so we, we continue to be bullish about our position in our overall markets.

Ashish Sabadra

That’s great. Thank you. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question is from Greg Parish with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Greg Parrish — Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. I just want to double click on one Q and apologies for that. But just given many of us have been snowed in here for a few weeks. I know you said slower start, but maybe Will the weather impact be kind of similar to what you saw in fourth quarter? Will it be worse? I don’t know, like a similar pace, the fourth quarter? Is that a decent way to think about one? Q. I guess any further color I. Think would be helpful for us.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Our weather forecaster can’t get the forecast. Tomorrow, right, can they?

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

You know, and we don’t play, we. Don’T, we’re not, we don’t. We try not to manage our business around that. It’s our jobs to get our work done and continue to move forward and do everything we can despite that. And what I can assure you is that our team is going to work really hard despite whatever those headwinds are to get through that. It’s really hard to say because just as we saw you look at November, December in some of the areas we mentioned earlier where you had two weeks where it just got frigid cold and the next thing you know, Thanksgiving, you know, you’re wearing shorts and you’re just, you know.

So these things just surprise us and that same thing can happen here. It could be really bad for longer for we could have a two weeks of spell in late February or a late start to spring. So we can’t predict today or tomorrow. So I think it’s really hard for us to think about those impacts. What I can tell you though is that our team is engaged and we’re going to do our darndest to fight through that.

Greg Parrish — Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, that’s helpful. I appreciate it. I had to try maybe just for my follow up, maybe talk about some of the ancillary opportunities. I know you have a lot of shots on goal, a lot of things you’re excited about. Maybe in 26, what are you most excited about in terms of gaining traction or maybe picking up a little bit. Versus the prior year. Thanks.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

I think when you look at that business, what I consistently say, Greg, is that we’ve got a number of opportunities. We’re not necessarily excited about just one opportunity. We’ve got so many different opportunities that if we avail ourselves to with our customer base and it continues to be a very low penetration rate, you know, we’re, we estimate that less than 3 or 4% of our customers are using those ancillary services and quite frankly it’s predominantly all in our Orkin brand, it’s not in our specialty brand. And so we’re doing a lot of work to really get out and as Jerry indicated in his prepared commentary and commentary, improve collaboration across the brand portfolio to enable us to, to see some Improvements in this area with some of our specialty brands.

Really important area of growth for us. Growing for the year, growing at 20%. Really exciting. And it’s a good area to continue to invest in because we’re seeing great results coming out of that area.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

There’s just so much upside. The Runway is so long to continue to drive that and much when we talked about the Rollins way and collaboration between our brands, the opportunities that we have also we have some brands say like a home team that doesn’t do certain other services and how do we leverage our other brands and then passing certain types of ancillary business that maybe they don’t do, but somebody else does over to our sister, their sister companies. There’s so much opportunity for that and we’re getting more and more mature in that space using both with technology and really just bringing people together so that we’re one big family all working together, taking care of each other.

So that part as we’re watching that come together and come to life is what excites me the most.

Greg Parrish — Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. That’s helpful. Color. Thank you.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thank you, Grace.

Operator

Our next question is from Tomo Sano with JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Tomohiko Sano — Analyst, JP Morgan

Good morning everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. Could you give us more colors on Saylor’s revenue margin eps contribution in Q4 and if you could give us some more color on pipeline for M and a in 2026 would be great. Thank you.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Certainly. Thank you for the question. Tomo Sela is performing exceptionally well. Just like Fox did two years ago. Sayla contributed upwards of $16 million in the quarter of revenue. I think year to date. We bought it in April of last year and year to date it’s contributed 55 million. We’ve actually seen 2 cents of non GAAP or adjusted EPS accretion. That’s really difficult to do in the first nine months of owning an asset, especially with the cost of financing where it is. Albeit our team’s doing an exceptional job with our commercial paper program and bond market.

So with that said, continues to perform well. Really good to have that group of teammates as part of our organization and really excited about what we can do in that area going into the 2026. Thank you.

Tomohiko Sano — Analyst, JP Morgan

And any colors on M and a pipeline in 2026 to get to 2 to 3%, please. Thank you.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Certainly. Yeah, thanks for that question. Missed that. But the M and A continues to be very healthy. We firmly believe at this point that 2 to 3% is very realistic and reasonable to expect. We’re carrying over a point or so slightly above that of growth from ma and we’ve got a very full pipeline where we’re, that we’re continuing to evaluate. We’ve invested over the last three years we’ve invested almost $900 million in acquisitions and bringing new teammates and new brands into the portfolio. We expect to continue to invest in 2026 and add 2 to 3% of revenue growth from acquisitions again in 2026.

Tomohiko Sano — Analyst, JP Morgan

Thank you very much.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Josh Chan with ubs. Please proceed.

Josh Chan — Analyst, Ubs

Hi, good morning Jerry and Ken. I guess maybe on the quarter you mentioned that most of the weather effects were in the eastern side of the US So is it true that the west and the south are basically the non impacted regions grew at a similar rate as Q3 just some ways, maybe kind of ballpark or ring fence the weather issues, I guess.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Yeah, they absolutely did. So they had strong performances in the fourth quarter, generally speaking. And again that’s what gives us some of that reassurance. Now some of that Texas, northern south central area going up into Tennessee certainly got a little more impact in January, but in the fourth quarter those areas performed to plan. They just couldn’t exceed plan enough to offset some of the challenges that we had in other parts of the country.

Josh Chan — Analyst, Ubs

Yeah, that makes sense. And then on that Q1 kind of comment, I know that freezes are typically not the greatest thing and there seems to be more freezes in this Q1. Than normal, I guess. So is, is that a potential concern when it comes to spring selling season? Like how are you thinking about that.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

When we have the ice storms, the sleet and things like that, that’s what shuts down branches and we can’t safely drive on the roads, you can’t safely access customers homes. And so we had some of that. In January. And all things considered, we continue to fight through that. And so yeah, we have to prepare for that. And a lot of that is operationally, hey, when the sun’s shining and the weather’s good, we have to be as productive as we can possibly be because you don’t know what’s going to happen two days from now. Right. So how do we front end load our work? How do we make hay when you can make hay? And sometimes that requires us working weekends and things along those lines. But we have to do our best to get ahead of that and prepare and plan in order to perform as best as we possibly can in the first quarter.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

You know, when you look back and you think about it, weather is always going to be a factor it’s just part of the business. Sometimes it’s more of a factor than others. But when the recurring revenue continues to perform and our ancillary business, our additional work with existing customers continues to grow and we’re able to grow those businesses north of 7%. We feel really good about our position. We feel really good about our ability to continue to grow earnings at double digit pace and cash flow also at a double digit pace. You know, we are, you know, certainly enduring.

We endured a challenging January with weather, but that’s one month out of three. You know, we still got a couple months left in the first quarter and so we’re not giving up yet on the first quarter. We have a lot of reasons to be optimistic because I think the team is highly engaged and focused on delivering exceptional results again here in 2026.

Josh Chan — Analyst, Ubs

Great. That’s good color and thank you both.

Operator

Our next question is from Jason Haas with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Jason Haas — Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I’m curious if you could talk about how digital leads have been trending and if you plan to make any changes to your marketing strategy. Thank you.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

We make changes to our marketing strategy every day, every week. Digital leads, we’re still constantly fighting increases. And. The price of that, the cost of generating digital leads. And we have to reallocate and adjust those plans all the time. We don’t necessarily irresponsibly go spend into the market just to get leads. We have a budget. Having that budget forces you to manage within it and allocate resources to drive the best results we can to drive new recurring customers into our portfolio of brands. So that continues to be the focus. Digital is a channel. It’s not our only channel. We have brands that acquire customers lots of different ways. So we’re not overly reliant on that.

We love that about our business. But that has been a challenging evolving for I guess as long as we’ve been in digital that. Except it’s just changing even faster these days and I think our team does a really good job adjusting to that.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

I think the broad diversification of the brand portfolio is certainly a competitive advantage. As I had mentioned earlier, the door knocking business Sala, but also Fox, if you go back to Fox in 23, that business is growing exceptionally well. And so our ability to pivot and maneuver and change, be agile as market conditions change is certainly advantageous for us and helping us continue to deliver some solid financial results.

Jason Haas — Analyst, Wells Fargo

Got it, thank you. Makes sense. And then as a follow up, are you able to talk about when you Get a one time business. How often does that translate into a recurring relationship with a customer? Is that like a source of new customers and you’re able to build that recurring relationship from those one time calls?

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Sometimes certainly that happens. What you don’t want to do is sell somebody who really wants a one time service and is not fully committed to recurring services. Sell them a recurring service because it usually results in somebody that’s not happy. What we do find, and this is really true, we’ve done the research on this over the years, particularly at Orkin. We have a lot of what we call recurring one time customers. These are customers that come back to. Us year after year. They get one or two services a year and they’re willing to pay more for those one or two services a year. But they don’t want to get say four to six services. It’s just not their model. But yet they trust Orkin. They trust the brand. They know they got results and they come back. So we know there’s certainly a portion there. But we also have to have a balance of not. Not providing something to someone that a service to someone that they don’t really. Want. That just sets a relationship up for failure.

Jason Haas — Analyst, Wells Fargo

Got it. Very helpful. That makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Peter Keith with Piper Sandler. Please proceed.

Peter Keith — Analyst, Piper Sandler

Oh, hey, thanks. Good morning everyone. I wanted to just dig into that. Incremental EBITDA margin which was below 20% and make sure I understand it. I guess the weaker sales came in. But is it that you were still. Hiring and training and investing in those people costs and then if that’s right, just how does that inform your thinking around budgeting and those costs in Q1 with also some potential for sales weakness?

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, certainly continue to invest. Markets continue to be very healthy. Recurring business continues to come in. New customers continue to come in. Peter. And so we continue to see really good demand for our services. When I unpack the margin in Q4, certainly the volume had an impact. When you look at that volume, call it 12 to 15 million dollars of additional volume, probably 7 to 8 million of additional profitability from an incremental perspective because that business is a little bit more profitable than our other business. And then the other thing that I called out which should help us here as we go into 26 is the fleet cost and the gain on vehicle sales.

We had a headwind of I believe $6 million in Q4 associated with this. That was roughly 80 basis points of headwind. So I think those two items are certainly impacting. They impacted the Q4 results, I certainly expect fleet to be to improve and I also expect that one time business to improve as we move throughout 2026. And I wouldn’t say we’re still hiring. A lot in the fourth quarter.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

What I would say is we have more people that we brought on earlier in the year, have carried through the year, have them trained, experienced and as long as they’re performing, they’re going to stay through through those, call them the winter, the late fall, winter months, so long as the performance is good. And so more than anything we just had more people on staff that we brought in earlier and now those people having gone through a season, as we get into February, March, April, as we turn the corner and get into season, these people are put in a much better position, much better experience to be able to serve our customers quite optimally.

Peter Keith — Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay, that’s very good feedback, thank you for that. And I wanted to circle back on one of the comments about what you’re most excited about for 2026 and driving that across collaboration amongst your brands. There’s also potential for maybe a CRM database upgrade. And I’m wondering just on the IT front, are there any investments that need to be made or any sort of structural changes to the CRM infrastructure to help drive that collaboration?

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

We’re evaluating that. We’ve had a lot of recent meetings about that and those are really ongoing discussions. More than anything, we’re really talking about the use of AI because most of these CRMs are heavily driven on just like customer databases. But how do we use AI to link all these systems together and orchestrate them irrespective of exactly which CRM they’re on? So we’re having those conversations now and making some decisions around particularly how we invest in AI to help us do that more so than just strictly making. We’ll have some brands and some places that may need some CRM changes to help us.

Make this work. But that’s on our radar screen. It’s still, we’re still probably in the first inning of those discussions.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yes, when you look at the Peter, when you look at the capital needs, we don’t see a major change in capital outlay with respect to CapEx in 2026. We’re making investments. I mean I commented earlier around our enterprise wide financial systems that we’re putting in place to help enable improvements. That’s going to take some investment, but not anything I don’t believe that will be noticeable and disrupt our cash flow profile. There’s nothing that’s an overhaul of Anything. It’s more of what do we layer on top to enable and get systems. Talking to each other? Better streamline it.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

How do we continue to modernize all the things that we’re doing and improve the tools that our teammates are using to improve, improve the collaboration across brands?

Peter Keith — Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay, very good. Thanks so much.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

George Tong — Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. You mentioned that you expect 1Q 1 time revenue performance to be similar to 4Q. Can you talk about what you expect for 1 time revenues for the rest of the year and how that will be supportive of your overall 7 to 8% organic revenue growth outlook?

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, you know, we haven’t put a number out there in terms of what we expect in Q1 with onetime revenue. What I did say in my prepared comments is this business is growing at if you go back over time 1 to 2%, it might have a quarter where it jumps up 2 to 3, but then you have a quarter like Q4 where it was declining 2 to 3% or so. And so you really, the business does jump around a little bit. It’s 15 or so percent of our business. But I think if we get, when I think about the growth algorithm, if I can get 7 plus percent, 7.5% of growth from recurring and ancillary and I can get 1 to 2% from this other business, it’s, it’s very acceptable and it allows us and enables us to grow our overall portfolio organic growth at 7% to 8% allows us to get that double digit earnings growth come through the model.

So that’s kind of how I view it, that’s how I look at it and that’s what I would hope to continue to deliver. Got it.

George Tong — Analyst, Goldman Sachs

That’s helpful. And then related to that, are there certain indicators or metrics that you can used to track how one time revenue performance is performing? Any leading indicators or KPIs that can give you confidence or visibility into performance in the coming quarters?

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

That’s a good question. I think the one thing that as we look at it again, it’s such a small business, it’s not a major business, it doesn’t move with economic cycles. So it’s hard to pull a macro factor and say hey, when this does this, if industrial production does this, we do this. That’s just not the case. We’re not tied to purchase managers, we’re not tied to industrial production. It’s very much one off business. But when you look at weather patterns, you look at the average temperature, I Mean, when you look at the Northeast, you look at the Midwest in November and December, the weather was much colder than it was a year ago.

And it’s quite frankly that simple. If you can’t get out on the roads, if you can’t get safely on a building to a house, we’re not going to send our people out. And so that certainly has an impact on the business. But again, it’s such a small business in terms of overall portfolio, portfolio size, that it’s hard to tie that to any macro factor.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

I think about over the years, Ken, over the last 15 years since bedbugs have had their resurgence in the U.S. there’s been years when bed bugs suddenly shoot back up and it’s all over. The news and. People bring them home from hotels and it’s a lot more. And then all of a sudden there could be a year where it’s all, and instead something else is there. So all those types of various pests that cause that one time business to come and go have been in our business over decades and it’ll continue to be that way. And when one thing kind of goes away, another issue arises or some invasive pest comes. So it’s really hard to predict.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Right. And we don’t use it, we don’t use that measurement to determine how healthy our business is because it comes and it goes. It’s just extra business that comes in. So our measure and our metric for determining how healthy our business is is our revenue from recurring contracts and recurring arrangements with customers. And then the nine shots on goal, the ancillary business, I mean, that’s what the business I believe is valued upon. And that’s how we measure the, the health of our business very often.

George Tong — Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed.

Brian McNamara — Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking the question. I’m curious about the new tech retention. You guys had mentioned that you outlined that in New York in early December and you mentioned newer teammate retention improved, I think 8% in the repair mark. So I’m assuming that’s first year techs. Does that mean you had to hire 8% fewer new techs or what does that 8% specifically measure? And then I think you mentioned in December you had, you had mentioned a kind of a 5 to $10 million in savings number expected for the year. I’m curious where that landed and what’s embedded in your 2026 expectation there.

Thank you.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Yeah, the last number I saw was approaching us hiring, having to hire about 600 fewer people year over year as a result of our improvements that we made in retention. And that certainly has an impact on payroll margin helped us the first, especially the first nine months of the year, which is more the time when you’re actually, actually hiring. We still have room to go there to continue to improve that. And our team has done a really good job sort of blueprinting the first year journey of our people so that we can, we know, we know if we can keep you here for a year, we can have you fall in love with this business and you’ll stay an awful lot longer.

So our team has really put forth some plans and kind of a model for us to follow. That first year, in January, we had our leadership meeting with all of our region managers. We had 250 people in the room. And this was part of our breakouts and part of our teachings that we did to ensure that we’re driving these best practices down through our business. Because this continues to be such an opportunity for upside, not only to improve our retention, we know this will be a direct correlation to help us improve our customer retention in the end.

Kenneth Krause — Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, I mean, when we look at it, you know, 600 people, 10 to $15,000 of onboarding cost is between 5 and $10 million of savings. We hire a lot of people every year and we lose way too many. And 600 is a just a small fraction of those people. And we’re focused on this because we feel like this is tens of millions of dollars of opportunity and it also is an opportunity to help influence growth because what we know is turnover in technicians is tied to turnover in customers. And so if we can do a better job at onboarding and keeping people, we’re going to do a better job of keeping customers.

Brian McNamara — Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Jerry Galoff — President and CEO

Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in our company and we look forward to speaking with you on our first quarter earnings call in just a few months.

Operator

Thank you. That will conclude today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.