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Spirit AeroSystems Holdings, Inc. (SPR) Q3 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

SPR Earnings Call - Final Transcript

Spirit AeroSystems Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: SPR) Q3 2020 earnings call dated Nov. 03, 2020

Corporate Participants:

Ryan Avey — Director of Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Myles Walton — UBS — Analyst

Carter Copeland — Melius Research — Analyst

Robert Spingarn — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Christine Zhuang — Morgan Stanley — Analyst

Sheila Kahyaoglu — Jefferies — Analyst

Doug Harned — Bernstein — Analyst

Ken Herbert — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

Seth Seifman — JPMorgan — Analyst

Jon Raviv — Citi — Analyst

George Shapiro — Shapiro Research — Analyst

David Strauss — Barclays — Analyst

Cai von Rumohr — Cowen & Company — Analyst

Hunter Keay — Wolfe Research — Analyst

Ron Epstein — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Noah Poponak — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Peter Arment — Robert W. Baird — Analyst

Mike Ciarmoli — Truist Securities — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Spirit AeroSystems Holdings Inc Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Cole, and I’ll be your coordinator today. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]

I would now like to turn the presentation over to Ryan Avey, Director of Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis. Please proceed.

Ryan Avey — Director of Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis

Thank you, Cole and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Spirit’s third quarter 2020 earnings call. I’m Ryan Avey, Director of Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis. And with me today are, Spirit’s President and Chief Executive Officer, Tom Gentile; and Spirit’s, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mark Suchinksi. After opening comments by Tom and Mark regarding our performance and outlook, we will take your questions. In order to allow everyone to participate in the question-and-answer segment, we ask that you limit yourself to one question, please.

Before we begin, I need to remind you that any projections or goals we may include in our discussion today are likely to involve risks, which are detailed in our earnings release, in our SEC filings, and in the forward-looking statement at the end of this web presentation. In addition, we refer you to our earnings release and presentation for disclosures and reconciliation of non-GAAP measures we use when discussing our results. And as a reminder, you can follow today’s broadcast and slide presentation on our website at investor.spiritaero.com.

With that, I would like to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Tom Gentile.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Ryan, and good morning everyone. Welcome to Spirit’s third quarter 2020 earnings call. The global aviation industry continues to struggle with the historic reduction in air traffic caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, which has created significant challenges for both airlines and aircraft manufacturers. As the pandemic unfolded, we quickly took actions to reduce cost and preserve liquidity.

As we mentioned in last quarter’s call, we have implemented about $1 billion of annualized cost reduction actions or a 40% reduction in the non-material base. We’ve also made the very difficult decision to reduce the headcount of our commercial aviation programs by 44%, which is more than 8,000 people. Most recently, we announced the closure of our McAlester, Oklahoma site, which does three access machining and assembly for Boeing programs. Most of the work from McAlester will now move to our Tulsa and Wichita facilities.

Our biggest program is 737 MAX and we have been encouraged by the news on the continued progress Boeing has been making with the FAA and global regulators to return the aircraft to service. Completion of the certification flights, a joint report from the United States, Canada, Brazil and the European Union Civil Aviation Authorities, which was incorporated in the FAA’s Draft Flight Standardization Board Report are all key milestones for the program. We are proud partner on the MAX and make 70% of the structure. We are looking forward to seeing the airplane safely back in service.

For 2021, we are planning 737 production deliveries to support Boeing’s production requirements. Boeing has indicated that they will be at a rate of 31 aircraft per month by early 2022. Through 2021, we also plan to reduce the current buffer inventory of 128, 737 shipsets, we will lag Boeing’s production rates by about 5 units per month and plan to decrease the inventory of shipsets to a permanent buffer of 20 to 25 units. The production rates on the other programs for Boeing and Airbus remain as they have reported. Based on our forecasted production, we estimate our free cash flow for 2021 will be negative, but significantly improved from 2020’s usage. This estimate of 2021 cash usage does not include the Bombardier assets that we just acquired or cash tax benefits, both of which will be positive. We expect free cash flow to be positive in 2022.

Over the last few months three actions have helped to improve our overall liquidity position. First, in late September, we mutually terminated our agreement to acquire Asco, eliminating a capital outlay of $420 million. While we are disappointed that the deal did not close, we have tremendous respect for Asco and we’ll continue working with them as a valued supplier. Second, we also took actions to restructure our balance sheet and improve our financial flexibility. We repaid our term loans of $430 million during the quarter and terminated the 2018 credit facility on October 5th. We also raised $900 million of new secured debt.

And third, we recently closed the acquisition of select Bombardier assets for $865 million, which is 20% reduction from the original enterprise value. The deal consists of a $275 million cash payment to the sellers, a 45% reduction from the original cash consideration of $500 million. The $865 million deal value includes certain liabilities for pension and government incentives. These three actions result in an adjusted Q3 liquidity position of $2 billion. Mark will provide further details a little bit later.

Now that we’ve closed the Bombardier acquisitions, we are thrilled to welcome our newest colleagues in Belfast, Casablanca and Dallas. The addition help accelerate our strategic transformation are providing more Airbus content, aftermarket business, defense and low-cost country operations. The Airbus content includes the composite wing for the A220, which leverages a state-of-the-art fabrication process known as resin transfer infusion. As a smaller narrow-body aircraft, the A220 will benefit from the quicker recovery of domestic air travel around the world after COVID-19.

In general Spirit will benefit from this higher domestic demand, since 85% of our unit backlog are narrow-body aircraft. The acquisition also significantly increases our aftermarket and maintenance, repair and overhaul business. Their focus on Airbus repairs and presence in the European market will complement Spirit’s existing expertise with Boeing repairs and presence in the US. Spirit also secures exclusivity on Bombardier’s business jet programs and is now one of their largest suppliers and we expand our Rolls-Royce relationship with work on the BR710 and Trent 700 engine to shell components.

In addition, the acquisition includes a world-class manufacturing facility in Morocco with a highly trained workforce located in an aerospace manufacturing cluster. The facility has a wide range of experience with flight controls, engineer shells and fuselage sections and has an extremely competitive cost structure.

Finally, the Bombardier acquisition also establishes a robust path for Spirit to participate in the evaluation and development efforts for the UK’s next-generation Tempest fighter program. Spirit’s leading aerostructures, technology capability along with a larger footprint in the UK is well suited for us to become a strong team Tempest industrial partner. This opportunity fits nicely into Spirit’s overall strategy of expanding our defense business, which by the way realized a 20% growth rate in 2020 revenue. We expect more than 15% growth in our defense business in 2021.

In summary, the acquisition of the Bombardier aerostructures assets accelerated the diversification of our customer base. In 2021 based on preliminary estimates, we expect Boeing commercial revenue to account for 45% of our total revenue and Airbus at 24%; Defense at 15%, business and regional jets at 8%; and aftermarket at 8%. The revised enterprise value for the Bombardier acquisition of $865 million, represents a multiple of 8.8 — 11.8 times expect the 2020 EBITDA adjusted to remove one-time items. Our plan is to generate synergies in a number of areas, including the supply chain, facility consolidation and overhead reduction over the next three years.

After taking into account the expected synergies of 6% of revenue, the adjusted EBITDA multiple will be 7.3 times. Our preliminary estimate of 2021 revenue for the Bombardier assets that we just acquired is between $700 million and $800 million. One other highlight for the quarter was the work we did to manufacturer ventilators in support of the battle against COVID-19. After building a state-of-the-art production facility, logistics system and global supply chain, the Spirit team working with our partner Vyaire successfully delivered 20,000 Critical care ventilators to US customers and customers in more than 20 different countries. The contract was on a cost-plus basis and was accretive to our results. Spirit is very proud of our partnership with Vyaire to meet the demand for lifesaving ventilators around the world.

With that, I’ll turn it over to Mark to take you through our detailed third quarter results. Mark?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Tom, and good morning everyone. I hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy. As Tom mentioned in his opening remarks Spirit, as well as the overall aviation industry are in the early stages of a multi-year recovery and we expect to continue to face near-term challenges. Throughout this year, our teams have responded well to the changes brought by the COVID pandemic. We have made significant adjustments in order to adapt our cost structure to our customers lower production levels and we’ll continue to adjust with the goal of emerging as a stronger company. With our long-term growth and diversification strategy and focus, we are pleased to have closed on the acquisition of select assets of Bombardier. This acquisition is key to our strategic transformation efforts and the additional work content with Airbus and aftermarket will position us well going into the future.

Now let’s move to our third quarter results. Please turn to Slide four. Revenue for the quarter was $806 million, down 58% from the same quarter last year. This reduction was primarily due to the lower production rate on the 737 MAX resulting from the continued grounding of the program and the significant impacts of COVID-19 pandemic. Production rates across all of our commercial programs continue to be negatively impacted by COVID-19. We delivered 15 737 shipsets in the quarter, compared to 154 in the same period of 2019. Overall deliveries decreased to 206 shipsets, compared to 437 shipsets in the same quarter of last year.

Let’s now to turn to earnings per share on Slide five. In the quarter, we reported earnings per share of negative $1.50 per share, compared to $1.26 per share in the same quarter last year. Adjusted EPS was negative $1.34 per share, compared to positive EPS of $1.38 in the same period of 2019. Adjusted EPS excludes the impacts of the acquisitions, restructuring costs and the non-cash voluntary retirement plan charges. The third quarter operating margins declined, compared to the same period last year as a result of costs incurred related to the low rate of MAX production, including excess capacity costs of $73 million, as well as lower production rates across almost all of our commercial programs due to the impacts of COVID-19.

For the quarter, we recognized restructuring expenses of $20 million for cost alignment and headcount reductions, as well as forward loss charges of $128 million, primarily driven by the lower future production rates announced on the 787 and A350 programs.

I’d also like to note that our total segment operating margin normalized to exclude changes in estimates, improved significantly over the last quarter. This quarter-over-quarter improvement demonstrates the effectiveness of the many cost reduction actions we have implemented this year. We expect to continue to recognize these benefits as we move into the future. During the third quarter, we evaluated additional schedule and demand information received from our customers, as well as other market and analyst data. And as a result adjusted the results on the 787 and A350 programs to include a lower rate of production for a longer duration, compared to our previous forecast. This resulted in an incremental fixed cost absorption on the 787 and A350 programs and as a result, we recorded forward losses of $65 million in the 787 program and $45 million on the A350 programs during the quarter.

Additionally, we recognized $18 million of forward losses on other programs, including the B747 and B767 program, which was primarily due to production rate decreases on this 777 program. Our year-to-date tax rate was approximately 38%. As discussed last quarter as a result of the CARES Act, we can carry back our anticipated 2020 net operating loss to [Phonetic] years where we paid tax. This has created a favorable year-to-date tax rate, compared to our expected normalized rate.

Now turning to free cash flow on Slide six. Free cash flow for the quarter was a use of $72 million, compared to a source of $214 million in the same period of 2019. This year-over-year decrease is primarily due to the negative impact of working capital requirements and significantly lower deliveries across all of our commercial programs, partially offset by favorable cash tax. The third quarter free cash flow was also impacted by $17 million of restructuring costs, as well as $11 million of cash used to unwind the term loan interest rate swaps.

Additionally, the third quarter of 2019 free cash flow included a $123 million cash advance received as part of the April 2019 MOA reach with the Boeing Corporation. Free cash flow improved by about $175 million from the last quarter. This quarter-over-quarter improvement was a result of the benefit from the cost reduction actions we have taken throughout the year, a decrease in our working capital requirements, as well as some favorability from the timing of certain deliveries in the quarter.

We anticipate cash flow used in the fourth quarter to be slightly higher than what we have recognized in this quarter, primarily due to higher interest on additional debt and some favorable timing of deliveries that are not expected to repeat in the fourth quarter. Excluding Bombardier, we anticipate full-year cash used in operating activities to be around $700 million to $800 million with approximately $120 million of capital expenditures. In other words, we expect free cash flow for 2020 to be around $800 million to $900 million of outflow, which is in line with our expectations and our commitments to you in the last quarter. We are quickly diving into the Bombardier integration and analyzing the appropriate structure for the business. There will be a one-time cash outflow of $35 million in the fourth quarter relating to restructuring activity.

Finally, as Tom mentioned in his remarks, our 2021 free cash flow will continue to be negative, but significantly improved from 2020, excluding cash tax benefits. We are expecting a cash tax benefit of approximately $300 million as a result of the carryback permitted by the CARES Act and anticipate receiving a majority of this benefit in 2021. This will provide cash benefits in 2021 above and beyond our year-over-year operational cash improvement.

Let’s now turn to cash and debt balances on Slide seven. During the quarter, we announced the termination of the Asco acquisition along with new financing activity. We raised $900 million of first lien senior secured debt, including $400 million term loan B and $500 million in notes due in 2025. In connection with the closing of this new debt, we terminated the existing senior secured credit facility, including the revolver. Prior to the termination on September 30, we paid off the term loans that had remaining balance at the end of the second quarter of approximately $430 million. This financing activity along with the Asco acquisition termination and Bombardier price reduction, improved our overall liquidity position by $1.2 billion and provides us with additional balance sheet and operational flexibility.

We ended the quarter with $1.4 billion of cash and $3 billion of debt. These balances reflect the termination of the prior credit facility, including the pay-off of the term loans, but the cash and debt balances do not reflect the $900 million of new senior secured debt as those funds were not received until just after the end of the quarter. Including the capital raise and cash used for the Bombardier acquisition, the adjusted cash balance at the end of the quarter would be $2 billion. The debt balance adjusted for the $900 million debt raise and would result in a total debt balance of $3.9 billion. We believe our cash balance provides ample liquidity to navigate the uncertainty within our industry.

Let’s turn to our segment performance on Slide eight. Fuselage segment revenue in the quarter was $421 million, down compared to the same period of 2019, primarily due to lower production volumes on the 737, 787 and A350 programs. Operating margin for the quarter was negative 23%, compared to 11% in the same period of the prior year. This decrease was primarily a result of forward losses recognized on the 787 and A350 programs and lower profit recognized in the 737 program, including excess capacity costs of $42 million. The fuselage segment recorded $9 million of favorable cumulative catch up adjustments and $92 million of net forward losses during the quarter. On a normalized basis after reversing change in estimate impacts fuselage segment margin improved to negative 3% in the third quarter, compared to negative 20% in the second quarter, reflecting the benefits of cost reduction initiatives we have completed this year.

Propulsion revenue in the third quarter was $171 million, down compared to the same period last year, primarily due to lower production volumes on the 737 and 777 programs. Operating margin for the quarter was negative 9%, compared to 21% in the same quarter of 2019. The segment recorded $5 million of unfavorable cumulative catch up adjustments and $15 million of net forward losses. The decrease in segment profitability and operating margin was primarily a result of lower margins recognized in the 737 program, including excess capacity costs of $18 million and the reduction in production rates on the 777 program.

And finally wing revenue was $168 million, down compared to the same period of 2019, primarily due to lower production volumes on the 737, A320 and A350 programs. Operating margin for the quarter was a negative 14%, compared to positive 14% in the same quarter of 2019. The segment recorded $22 million of net forward losses. The decrease in segment profitability and operating margin was due to forward losses recognized in the 787 and A350 programs and lower margin recognized on the 737 program, including excess capacity costs of $13 million.

In closing, this has been a very challenging year for Spirit. We have taken difficult, but necessary actions to adapt to the changes brought on from both the MAX grounding and COVID-19. We continue to assess potential future scenarios to identify areas of opportunity and develop action plans to mitigate risk. The $900 million capital raise along with the termination of the Asco acquisition and the Bombardier price reduction strengthens our liquidity position and enhances our ability to address future challenges. Further, we will continue to stay focused on our growth and diversification strategies. The acquisition of Bombardier is a significant event for us and we look forward to making them a big part of the Spirit team.

With that I will turn it back over to Tom for some closing comments.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mark and I’ll make some closing comments before we take questions. Given the significant changes to the global aviation industry resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic, Spirit has taken substantial cost reduction actions to align to lower levels of production. These actions include the reduction of 8,000 employees on commercial programs, closure of several facilities and the reduction of other non-labor spend.

In total, the annualized cost reduction actions have exceeded $1 billion or 40% of our non-material base. We’ve also made substantial improvements in our manufacturing processes to improve digitization, automation and process flow. Spirit also took several actions to strengthen our liquidity position. We need to really terminated the Asco acquisition, repaid our term loans and canceled our 2018 credit facility, raised $900 million of first lien secured capital and closed the acquisition of Bombardier’s aerostructures assets for $275 million, a cash reduction of $225 million from the original amount.

The Bombardier acquisition also accelerates our strategic transformation, with additional work on Airbus programs, aftermarket, business jet, engines and defense. The acquisition also brings low-cost manufacturing operations in Morocco. We have taken these significant steps during a very challenging time in the industry, which will allow us to emerge as a stronger, more diversified company.

With that, we’ll be happy to take your questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

And at this time, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question today will come from Myles Walton with UBS. Please go ahead.

Myles Walton — UBS — Analyst

Thanks, good morning. You’ve tackled a lot of issues in the quarter. So it’s not an easy job where you sit. I was wondering, if you could talk about the underlying margins excluding the forward losses and cumulative changes, it looks like your segment margins were about breakeven. And curious if that’s, sort of, the underlying business right now at these low levels you’re breaking even? And then maybe more detailed just a one-off on the A350, the size of the forward loss there seems to be about double or what was in the debt offering disclosure? And just curious what change there, it looks like you were assuming five per month back then as well?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Right. Well, I’ll start off. In terms of the margins, you’re right, we have made some substantial improvements quarter-over-quarter. I mean, obviously deterioration year-over-year, because of the reduction in production rates. But the cost reduction actions are starting to take hold and so even at very low levels of production, you start to see the margin improvement. So for example, right now effectively for 737, we’re at a 7 APM rate and 777 we’ve dropped now to about 2 per month. On 787 we’re still at 10, but that’s dropping to 6. So, even with all those headwinds you saw the margins improve on the 737 program on a normalized basis last quarter at negative 20% to this quarter of negative 3%, so almost breakeven, so we’re pretty happy about that.

Now the forward loss on the A350 program was really just due to rates. When we originally made the estimate of what we thought the forward loss was going to be, we were working on the assumption that the rate was going to drop from 10 to 6, but in fact Airbus dropped it to 5 for at least a six month period beginning in, kind of, the September timeframe. So when we took that into account that drove the higher forward loss then we predicted at the end of last quarter. Mark anything else to add?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

No, I think you hit it right, Tom. The A350, Myles really was due to the fact that between now and the end of the year and mainly through next year, we’re really going to be producing at about 4.5 per month. And when we originally made the assessment it was in the four losses in the 5 to 6 range. And so we’ve had to take that into account and also with that lower level of production, it’s had a negative impact not only on Section 15, but also our fixed leading edge program.

Myles Walton — UBS — Analyst

Okay. All right, thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Carter Copeland with Melius Research. Please go ahead.

Carter Copeland — Melius Research — Analyst

Hey, good morning, gentlemen.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Carter.

Carter Copeland — Melius Research — Analyst

Just a question on cash from what you’ve sort of disclosed about next year. Based on this year’s guidance sort of $850 million out, you get the cash tax benefits of $300 million and the cost out isn’t quite there, but I don’t know call that $200 million, kind of, get you to low single-digit hundreds of millions out? Are there other pieces that are missing. And I guess specifically with that — what should we expect from a cash standpoint on the Bombardier assets and your view? Thanks.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Great. Well, first of all, as you know, the cash usage for this quarter was $72 million, Mark said it’s going to be quite a little bit higher next quarter. As we go into next year, again with our current forecast 737 production should be higher than this year, but it’s very dynamic so we’ll see some headwinds on the twin aisle programs. But by and large, we don’t expect the cash usage per quarter to exceed what we’ve seen in, kind of, Q3 and Q4. So you’re right with the cash tax benefit of $300 million that will put us in the, kind of, single-digit to right around $100 million net usage and perhaps better depending on performance.

What it doesn’t include Bombardier still digging into it, but we do expect Bombardier to be positive. We’ve got some work to do there, as we look at their capital expenditures and their R&D and things like that and we align it to our programs and as well as we start to drive synergies, particularly in the supply chain. So we expect it to be positive, don’t know yet how much, but I think your analysis in terms of where we will be for cash flow next year, including the cash tax benefit is about right.

Carter Copeland — Melius Research — Analyst

Great, thank you for the color, Tom.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

And our next question will come from Robert Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Robert Spingarn — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Hi, good morning. My question is going to be on Bombardier. But before we go there just to clarify, based on the moving pieces and where rates are now? And what quarter Tom or Mark, do you expect — based on current planned rates, no changes would we see trough revenues, because it sounds like some rates are still trending down on the wide bodies, and of course Bombardier is a little bit obscure, so that’s the first question.

Second question is why did Spirit and Bombardier value the deal somewhat differently. Bombardier you talked about some favorable adjustments on the forward business?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, so first off, as it relates to the trough from a revenue standpoint, I would tell you that we expect to trough is behind us. The revenue that we generated in the second quarter of 2020 or this year, we expect that to be our low point. And as you saw here where we’ve made slight improvement here in the third quarter and then as we move into next year we have to adjust for some of the twin aisle pressure next year, but the expectation is 737 will be a little bit higher next year, which will help offset that. So I think we’re in a good position as we move forward here to slightly start to see revenues move upward as we move into ’21 and even stronger into the back half of next year based on the OEM data that has been provided to us.

And then specifically as it relates to Bombardier’s press release and how they characterized, all I can tell you is that Bombardier accounting is due to IFRS, Spirit uses US GAAP and how they calculated their liabilities or the deal values is really up to them and their accountants, I can tell you that we used our accountants and our actuaries to assess the pension obligation liability and the repayable launch agreement and then the cash proceeds. So, you know, when we finalize the purchase accounting here and establish the balance sheet at the end of October, we’re very comfortable with our accounting assessment, as it relates to what the value of the deal is. I wish, I could connect the dots more for you, but they probably had some different assumptions than we did, but we do know that our deal value in the enterprise and what the liabilities will establish on our books is consistent with US GAAP, right.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

It really gets down to how they value the pension obligations in IFRS versus how we did in US GAAP, that’s the difference.

Robert Spingarn — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Okay, just the last part of — just Tom, on the exclusivity that you have there. Did that — is that part of some kind of a pricing arrangement? And where should we see similar profitability in that business to what we would normally expect from Spirit?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, well the exclusivity is that we have sole source life of program agreements on the parts that the Belfast operations currently supplies to Bombardier on their business jet programs. And the profitability is slightly accretive on those programs to Spirit’s normal profitability margins.

Robert Spingarn — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

And our next question will come from Christine Zhuang [Phonetic] with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Christine Zhuang — Morgan Stanley — Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Christine.

Christine Zhuang — Morgan Stanley — Analyst

I have — for the Bombardier assets that you’ve acquired, can you discuss the free cash flow profile of these businesses? And then now that you’ve closed the deal that your priorities are in the next year?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Christine, I’ll address the cash flow and then I think Tom will, kind of, talk a bit about the business next year. But the reality is this — their business has been, it’s our business now has been impacted by COVID-19, so obviously there is going to be lower revenues than we initially anticipated when we signed the purchase agreement there. And we just closed the deal a few days ago, our teams just hit the ground on Monday and in Tuesday have got my financial team diving into the details as it relates to the next couple of months. We’ll be working with them over the next month or so to establish an annual operating plan for 2021, they had a plan previously and expectations with their former parent company. And as we think about the integration and the synergies in where that business is going on a go-forward basis, we expect, you know, decent revenues as it relates to the business jet side of things, I think we’ve got good line of sight to A220, and we’re really pleased with the aftermarket part of the business.

So we’re not yet going to really get into details as it relates to where we think their cash flow is going to do. And next year and how it’s going to contribute just specifically, we’ll factor that into our guidance when we talk to you guys at the end of January, but it’s really in the early days of the Bombardier acquisition and our teams are working in earnest as it relates to the integration in the synergies, but we’re really pleased about that business and what it could offer from a value proposition for Spirit.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Great. And Christine in terms of priorities for the business, first and foremost is integration, it’s a new acquisition, it’s a big one. So biggest that Spirit’s ever made. And so we have a fairly large integration team working on all the normal things in terms of finance, HR, information technology, driving all of those things. Second big focus is going to be on capturing synergies and that’s part of the integration effort. But specifically looking at supply chain, facilities optimization, overhead. And particularly in supply chain with Spirit, we bring a lot more critical mass and scale with suppliers and so we’ll start integrating those opportunities and leveraging our existing supply base to get more competitive opportunities as we go forward.

Operationally, the A220 of course is a huge program, it’s the entire integrated wing using that resin transfer infusion technology for fabrication that I mentioned in my prepared remarks. And we’re going to be looking very hard at the production process, the flow, material waste and looking at ways we can optimize the production and drive further productivity in it.

And then the other big thing is aftermarket. This acquisition more than doubles our aftermarket business and it gives us [Technical Issues]

Operator

Pardon me, this is the conference operator speaking, just please hold on the line momentarily. And then, pardon me, the speaker location has been connected to the call.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

This is Tom again, I’m sorry we must have dropped off. SO moderator, could you led or perhaps you could let us know where did we stopped? Did they hear my response to Christine’s question?

Operator

You were giving your response to Christine’s question. However, if you — I have re-opened Christine’s line, if you would like to re-ask that question again?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, Christine, let me — I’ll just start over and make sure we get it in fully.

Christine Zhuang — Morgan Stanley — Analyst

I think the part dropped off on — was on your question about aftermarket, that’s a [Speech Overlap]

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, right. So aftermarket is going to be a big focus for us with this acquisition and Bombardier’s assets more than double our aftermarket revenue. And so, we’ve always historically been very strong on Boeing repairs for flight control surfaces and the sales and thrust reversers in the US market. And the Bombardier business was always very strong on Airbus flight control surfaces themselves and thrust reversers in the European market. So those two things come together very nicely and complement each other and will more than double our aftermarket business.

And as I said in my prepared remarks, our aftermarket revenue now becomes 8% of our total and we have substantial growth opportunities in the future. So this becomes a significant opportunity for Spirit to start to realize more revenue and income from aftermarket activity.

Christine Zhuang — Morgan Stanley — Analyst

Thank you.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thanks, Christine.

Operator

And our next question will come from Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Sheila Kahyaoglu — Jefferies — Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys and thank you. Just a follow-up on Christine’s question maybe sticking with Bombardier. Your EV on the deal fell 35% or so, but the implied EBITDA fell 50%. So I guess how do you think about how you have risk adjusted the exposure here given it’s mainly A320 — A220 and Bizjet exposure? And how do you think about those program outlooks appreciating, Tom that the deal just closed and you’re going through the forecasting for it?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Few ways that we looked at it, obviously we struck the deal last October, but the world changed with the pandemic. And Bombardier had certain expectations in terms of deal valuation and we were looking for some relief given the changes in the market. So it was — as you can imagine a rigorous discussion and we arrived at a mutual conclusion that it was a 20% reduction in the total deal valuation. But if you look at the cash consideration it was a 40% reduction. So that’s probably more in line with the EBITDA reduction that you just mentioned.

The other element of this is, it was always a three-way negotiation with Airbus, because the pricing on the A220 and all our deliverables to Airbus had to be taken into account and Airbus was also very supportive in these discussions to make sure we could come to a mutually agreeable outcome. So all those things taken into account, we feel very comfortable with where we ended up in the deal valuation. So it’s a win really for Spirit, because we get a transformative acquisition. It’s win for Bombardier to get the acquisition closed, so they can move on with making their business more focused on business jets, really a win for Airbus and that they now have clarity in terms of their A220 particularly on the full integrated wing. And we would say it’s a win for the workforce in Belfast, Casablanca and Dallas, because they now have certainty as we go forward.

Sheila Kahyaoglu — Jefferies — Analyst

Okay, thank you for clearing that up and apologies for that reversal.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Doug Harned with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Doug Harned — Bernstein — Analyst

Thank you. Good morning.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Doug.

Doug Harned — Bernstein — Analyst

Last week Airbus talked about — they basically letters that it sent out to suppliers on rate increases for the A320 Neo from 40 to 47 a month, and they said that this — they had been planning for suppliers to be ready for such an increase in Q2 next year, they move that back to Q3 next year. What I’m interested in, as you’re the largest structural supplier on the A320 Neo, and when you get a message like that, that you should be ready for this rate increase. How do you think about responding? What do you do and what does it mean that they move this back from Q2 to Q3 from a Spirit standpoint?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

So the letter and we had calls with their senior leadership on this topic is the way they characterize it is they asked us to protect rate 47 for the back half of the year. So the current schedule is rate 40, but they asked us to protect for 47. So that means to make sure that we have all of our capital and tooling in place that we’re prepared to increase the workforce two or three months in advance of that, and that we also have line of sight to material particularly long-lead material like forgings, if the rate does go up. And they would give us enough advance notice to put those things into effect. But protecting the rate means you have to be prepared to go there, if they decide to make that move.

Now obviously, the market is very dynamic right now. They have talked with all of their individual airlines and created a new skyline based on when airlines can take delivery and when they will take delivery. So they’ve been very diligent about the way they have constructed their schedule and what they communicated to their suppliers. And they’re effectively just giving us advance notice to be prepared if the rate does go up. The fact that it shifted three months doesn’t really impact us, it just means that we push that lead time out. So we have done what they’ve requested. We are protecting for rate 47 in the back half of the year Q3 now, and if they do decide to go up, we’ll be prepared.

Doug Harned — Bernstein — Analyst

And does the — going up, I mean, is this — I mean, what does that exactly mean that you would be within whatever quarter that is able to deliver in that quarter? Or does it mean that you would be kind of set to go, I’m not — so that I’m not sure what — for you what — how to tie your rate to their rate. I guess that’s the thing, I’m trying to understand?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, typically on the A320 if they announced rate of 47, we would be delivering at that rate during that period of time. So as they said on the call, I think you said October. So if they decided to go on October, we’d be prepared to deliver 47 shipsets in October.

Doug Harned — Bernstein — Analyst

Okay. Okay, very good. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Ken Herbert with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Ken Herbert — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

Hi, good morning, Tom and Mark.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Ken Herbert — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

I wanted to see, Tom, if you can provide any more detail on the glide path for the 737 from — it sounds like you’re at seven months now to the, call it 26-month at the end of ’21 or early ’22. If you sort of lag by fiber months. If you can provide any more detail on sort of rate breaks over the next several quarters on that? And when you expect to catch up with Boeing on 737 rate?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Right. Well, Boeing has provided guidance that — they think that their production rate will be at 31 per month by early 2022 and as we’ve said, we’re going to lag them by about five aircraft per month to burn down the inventory that store here at Wichita. Right now we’re in the process of ramping up to 10 aircraft per month for January, so we’re in the process of getting all of our headcount and material orders and supply chain aligned for that. Within that we don’t have much other guidance other than what Boeing would provide, it’s a very dynamic environment and we will be guided by what Boeing tells us. But that’s how we’re planning right now is will be a 10 by January, there’ll be a 31 by early 2022 and we’re going to lag them by about five per month.

In terms of the catch-up based on the current schedule, it looks like we would burn down the 130 or so, the 128 units that we have buffer now to 20 to 25 by mid-2022, and then we’ll keep that buffer 20 or 25 units just to cushion the production system, so that we don’t have any disruption that could upset Boeing’s production line and ever. So that’s the plan.

Ken Herbert — Canaccord Genuity — Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Seth Seifman with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Seth Seifman — JPMorgan — Analyst

Thanks very much and good morning. Wonder maybe I could add — sneak two in here, but one on the 737 with the current workforce, how high can production go with the workforce at the size that it is now? And then just real quick on Bombardier and the A220, how should we think about where the rate needs to go on that program before it becomes — before it starts to contribute at a solid cash margin?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Right. Well on 737, our current workforce is aligned to our current production rate, which is seven aircraft per month. And as I said, we’re getting ready to go up to 10 by the beginning of the year. So, I mentioned the ventilator program as that’s winding down, we’re transferring some of those people back to the 737 program, so that we are ready to go to 10 in January. So, currently at a rate of seven and going to 10.

In terms of Bombardier, the A220 and the current rate is about four per month and we’re going to be prepared in the future to go up to 14 per month, but we’ll be guided by again what Airbus decides in terms of how fast they’ll ramp that up. In terms of profitability, we will need to dig into it to figure out where exactly the breakeven points are in the profitability, but it’s going to be a good program overall. The outlook on it is very good. As I mentioned, it’s one of the smaller segments of the narrow body market. And the narrow body market is recovering, for example, China and Russia on their domestic aircraft lights — air traffic are already above 2019 levels. So we expect to see the same in Europe and the US is that domestic travel will recover first that will favor narrow bodies and with overall levels of traffic lower than they were in the past, a smaller narrow body like the A220 should do very well. So we expect that Airbus will hit their long-term production rate commitments on it. And we will be ready to meet those commitments. And as we get further into, I think we’ll have a better sense of what the profitability breakeven points are.

Seth Seifman — JPMorgan — Analyst

Great. Thanks, Tom.

Operator

And our next question will come from Jon Raviv with Citi. Please go ahead.

Jon Raviv — Citi — Analyst

Thanks and good morning. Back to cash, can you talk a little more specifically, Tom that what you need to see in 2021 for cash burn is to — be significantly better? And then same thing, what do you need to see for cash breakeven in ’22, what’s in your control — was not in your control, it strikes me that narrow-body is clearly very important, you talked about Airbus, we’re talking about MAX a lot. But Boeing is talking about slower deliveries in ’21, which would therefore constrain their production, which there — would therefore constrained your deliveries. So just a little bit more on what’s in your control or what’s not in your control? And what production rate do you have to hit to actually make cash on each 737? Thank you.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Right. So as you said, I mean, what’s in our control versus what’s not in our control. What’s in our control is our cost reduction actions and we need to continue to execute on those. We’ve got a lot of them are already in place, but we need to maintain that vigilance. We also need to continue to drive productivity in our factories with what I mentioned things like digitization and automation, robotics, factory floor automation. So those are the things that are in our control to drive and we are definitely going to continue to drive those.

Things not in our control and really the biggest driver for cash flow in 2021 is going to be production rates, particularly on the 737. Obviously, the 737 is our biggest program, we make 70% of the structure. Last year it accounted for half of our revenue, this year we’d like to produce 72 units versus 606 in 2019. So if that recovers and it is supposed to recover from this year, according to Boeing’s current projections that obviously will drive improved cash flow for next year, even with the headwinds of some lower rates on the wide bodies like the 777 and the A350. But this is a very dynamic environment and lots of things could change. Obviously, we’re still waiting for the MAX to get back into service. It’s promising, it’s encouraging, but that needs to happen and the FAA has said there is no timetable on that, but they have said a lot of positive things about it. So as the [Indecipherable] by the way, which is encouraging.

So we need to see that. And then of course the pandemic, people are starting to fly more domestically in places like China and Russia, but with the recent surge, it creates more uncertainty. So once the — a vaccine is in place that will obviously give greater focus. And also the development of these private health care quarters or travel bubbles that you start to see developing between different countries, which should help stimulate some international traffic. So those I think are the key issues for 2021, and frankly for 2022 as well. We’ve got to continue to drive our cost reduction actions, but we need to see single-aisle production rates increase as air traffic recovers around the world.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Jon. Just to kind of add to what Tom said, we’re — with all of the reductions in production rates this year, we really do — when you think about delivering 72 737s, we’re really kind of at the trough right now of production volumes. So even a modest improvement in 737 deliveries next year will be — will create some tailwind and accretive benefits for us. So as we said before, some of the drag of working capital that consumed quite a bit of cash here in 2020 will not repeat, I expect working capital to be a bit of a tailwind, a little bit of benefit from 737 next year. And as we said before from an operational standpoint, we expect our cash flow to be significantly better year-over-year, more than half of our cash burn here in 2020 is working capital related and that will not repeat next year, we’ll get a little bit of benefit there. And when you think about it Carter, kind of, did some good math on where we think cash flow is.

So significant improvement next year even with the lower production volumes to cost reduction activities are taking place. You see it in our cash usage this quarter. So we’re going to continue to go battle, look the cost reduction side, but we also I think have some real opportunities on the working capital. I think, we can do a better job next year on inventory management, which will potentially give us some additional tailwind on the cash flow side. And if the market predictions come true, we’re looking at some modest recoveries back half of next year and into 2022 that will help on the operational front.

And then we’ve — as we said, you know, the — it’s kind of a pro and a con, but the operating losses this year will generate some sizable one-time cash tax benefit in 2021, and that will create some additional liquidity or cash to help us work through the challenges here, but we feel good about where we’re at and where we think cash flow is going to be next year, significant improvement. And then as Tom indicated, we get a little some help here on the vaccination and their narrow-body starts to recover. We can be back in business generating free cash flow in 2022.

Jon Raviv — Citi — Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

And our next question will come from George Shapiro with Shapiro Research. Please go ahead.

George Shapiro — Shapiro Research — Analyst

Yes, good morning. I just wanted to go back to last year Bombardier’s was going to do about $1 billion of revenues in ’19. What is that number this year, I know you mentioned on the call, it will go up to $700 million plus next year. But I’m just trying to get the comparison here is to what’s?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, you’re right. Last year was about $1 billion, this year with the impact of COVID, we’re just getting to look at the books from the standpoint of closing the deal, it looks like it will be $700 million to $800 million and then a recovery to the $1 billion in the 2022 time period. But that’s what we see right now.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, George to be more specific, this year we’re looking at $600 million to $650 million, that’s what we’re projecting for the year and then next year to $700 million to $800 million. So just a little bit of modest improvement next year before we start to see the revenue start to climb back up in ’22.

George Shapiro — Shapiro Research — Analyst

And just on the 737, what happens if Boeing further delays the increase to the 31 per month rate, because certainly they’ve got a lot of planes to deliver, they’ve got a lot of grounded planes. So I just wanted to see how you react to that?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, we will respond to their production rate and we’ll lag them by at least five per month. And if the rates are lower than we’re expecting, this will align our cost accordingly.

George Shapiro — Shapiro Research — Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, George.

Operator

And our next question will come from David Strauss with Barclays. Please go ahead.

David Strauss — Barclays — Analyst

Thanks. Tom, I was wondering if you could just specify exactly what you’re assuming for MAX production in ’21 that you’ve got reflected in your commentary around ’21 free cash flow? And then looking beyond the MAX, the other important platforms A320, A350, 787 you’re currently delivering well — you’re delivering into the manufacturers are well above their own delivery rates at this point. So what — how much risk is there that you actually have to drop your production rate on those programs, actually have to drop below the manufacturer’s stated production rates going forward? Thanks.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Right. Well, on the other programs, our rate tends to line up to the manufacturers rate, so Airbus and Boeing. And when they give us a schedule, we deliver to it. And so those are pretty closely aligned. And on the A320 Airbus has been very clear, they are at a rate of 40 right now that which is going to continue into next year. They’ve asked us to protect for 47 in the October timeframe and beyond. The A350 is right now at a rate of five and that will go into early part of next year, May, June and then go back up to six. 787 right now is at 10 and it’s supposed to go to six, in about the March timeframe and 777 is really down to 2, you know, 1.8. And those are all as what the manufacturers have stated and we are aligned to those.

On the MAX Boeing hasn’t been specific yet about what the production rate will be in 2021. What they’ve said is, they expect it to be 31 by early 2022, and we’re getting ready to go to 10 in January. And so we haven’t really said what the specific rate will be for 2021 and we’ll really wait and see what Boeing does. We don’t want to get out ahead of them, it’s obviously a very dynamic environment they’re working really hard with the airlines and they’ve given some guidance to the market and we’re following that guidance and we’re making sure that we align to the schedule that they’ve given us.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hey David, I think your point though is, you know, Boeing and Airbus. Boeing on the 787 is built up some units that they haven’t delivered yet. Airbus has some as well, again, that’s really, kind of, outside of our control, they’ve asked us produce we’re delivering and we know that there is a lot of uncertainty as we move in the 2021, I think production rates are still dynamic. And as we’ve acted very quickly this year, if there are further rate reductions, we will be forced to have to take additional workforce reductions and continue to focus our cost to align with the production rates. We have a highly variable cost structure here and the best thing that we can do is production rates are out of our control and if they go lower, because of the situation that you just addressed. We’re going to have to take further workforce actions and we will continue to align our cost structure with the marketplace as we see it today and as you know, it continues to be dynamic because of COVID-19.

David Strauss — Barclays — Analyst

Thanks. Hey, Mark, one quick follow-up working capital in 2020, the $800 million and $900 million free cash flow burn that you’re guiding to. What are you including in there, I mean, as you look at working capital, what you call working capital. What are you assuming within that number for, kind of, negative or free cash — working capital burn in ’20?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So, David, I would focus on receivables, inventory, accounts payable and accrued liabilities and profit sharing, those are the big cash driving working capital items on our balance sheet.

David Strauss — Barclays — Analyst

Okay. And you think those are — the sum of all that in ’21 is a positive?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Slightly positive, yes.

David Strauss — Barclays — Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Cai von Rumohr with Cowen. Please go ahead.

Cai von Rumohr — Cowen & Company — Analyst

Yes, thank you very much. So when you first announced the Bombardier deal in October of 2019. I think you were talking of 6.5 times EBITDA with synergies, which if you kind of back it up to the $1 billion was like close to 11% EBITDA margin? And now you’re talking of $600 million to $650 million in terms of revenues for 2020 and if I use the 7.3%, you know, is backs up to about a 12% EBITDA margin, so a higher EBITDA margin after a substantial revenue drop? And then if we’re looking at next year, wouldn’t the EBITDA margin go up, if in fact the revenues are building as you hope?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, I mean, when you think of it that way, I don’t think that an EBITDA margin on any of our business at around 10% is unreasonable. I think we have a lot of opportunity from a cost standpoint, Tom talked about three or four major drivers that we think that we can take advantage of as it relates to the Belfast site that could really help us from a profitability standpoint, from a cash flow standpoint. So I don’t think it’s unrealistic to assume that, that business can generate 10% plus — 10% to 12% plus percent EBITDA margins. As we look at — of getting back to the higher revenues over the next one to two years ago.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

And, Kind of, I would say we do think we can increase the EBITDA margin next year as we drive the synergies, particularly in supply chain.

Cai von Rumohr — Cowen & Company — Analyst

So if I look at this, what is driving the revenues up, because A220 is already at rate. I assume the 7,500 has gone from aerostructures point of view. 35 to 40 the aftermarket, I guess could be flat to up. But I have a little trouble understanding what’s driving the revenue up next year?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, Cai, as we said, I indicated that we’re looking at mid-$650 million [Phonetic]. From a revenue standpoint and we’re projecting $700 million $800 million. $800 million if some of the business jet and aftermarket business holds and does outperforms, kind, of where our heads are. But I don’t think when you think about an increase in revenue from $650 million around $700 million that we’re talking about a substantial drop, right? A little bit of benefits on the business jet side, I would expect that the 7,500 we’ll deliver a few more units, we’ll produce a few more next year. We got a little bit of lift on the aftermarket side of things, right? And we — as it relates to some of the discussions that we’ve had with Airbus on price etc, could add some value as it relates to the A220 program.

Cai von Rumohr — Cowen & Company — Analyst

Thank you very much.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure.

Operator

And our next question will come from Hunter Keay with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Hunter Keay — Wolfe Research — Analyst

Hi, thanks for getting me on. Quick follow-up to that last comment, Mark, when you talked about, I was going to ask you what your shipset content was on A220 prior and pro forma, so I’d be curious about that. And then the second one is Tom, what’s your primary metric for how you measure employee productivity? Thank you.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Hunter, real quick on the work statement on A220 today. Today, as it relates or the new A220 work that we’re going to capture as part of this acquisition is Tom talked a lot about the fully integrated composite wing. But there is a — some potential fuselage works, some center wing box work to complement our propulsion package that we have on the A220, the pylon. So we’re starting to have some sizable work statement as we add the work content from the Bombardier acquisition.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Right, Hunter and then to get at employee productivity, I’ll focus on direct labor productivity. Our major metric is hours per unit, which we look at across every program and continue to work on that. And we look at, something we call it, do what’s do, but it’s a realization metric, which is for the — our schedule today for particular unit. How many did we complete. So what was our effectiveness at executing the workload for today that was scheduled. So hours per unit, and what we call do what’s do and we look at those metrics across all of our program on a daily basis.

Hunter Keay — Wolfe Research — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Ron Epstein with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Ron Epstein — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Hey, good morning. So [Technical Issues] how you’re restructuring the business in so on and so forth. Can you restructure how you do contracts, you’ve got more downside protection, if another downturn like this were to happen again. I mean, is there a way to do these things so below a certain point your cost plus or something, because I mean the situation we’re in. I suppose, is once in a lifetime thing, but it might not be right. I mean, is there a better way to build downside protection into your contracts with the OEs?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I mean certainly you can try they’re good negotiators. But I mean, one thing I would say is our biggest program is the MAX and as we’ve said before our MAX contract is indexed to rate, so as rates go down, our price went up, and that’s probably the best way to protect yourself in the event of a downturn, because you just can’t anticipate these things. But in that case that contract being our biggest contract that was a good contract, if you will, mechanism that helps with this downturn. Short of that, we always work with our customers in terms of what are the best terms and conditions that makes sense in the market and that we can live with. So there’s always a large focus on quality and delivery, it’s difficult to protect normally against downturns like this, I mean, this is a once in a millennium type of situation.

But for our longer-term contracts, we also build in some escalation protection as well. So lots of different things that you can do, and it’s always a negotiation based on what market conditions are and what the needs and requirements are of both parties at the time.

Ron Epstein — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

And if I may on 787 specifically, I think you said at one point you guys would be cash flow breakeven in ’22. When does that happen now? Is it like ’24, ’25, I mean, like…

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, that is the — positive in terms of cash flow and profitability, when we get to the line unit 1405. Now originally, that was in ’22, ’23 time period. Obviously now with lower rates of production that gets pushed out to the end of 2024, there about.

Ron Epstein — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

And it’s still 1405, that’s still same line number?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

That’s it. Yes.

Ron Epstein — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Noah Poponak — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Alright. Good afternoon, everybody.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Good afternoon.

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You’re welcome.

Noah Poponak — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Quick clarification and then a longer-term question. The $800 million to $900 million of projected 2020 free cash burn that you’ve provided. Does that include or exclude that, I think, you said $35 million to $40 million of Bombardier outflow in the fourth quarter?

Mark J. Suchinski — Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

It does not include the $35 million, the $800 million to $900 million is what we told you guys on our second quarter earnings call. That’s the legacy business, excluding the Bombardier, I think, we’re going to be on the favorable side of that. And that does not include those one-time severance related cash cost that will be incurred on the Bombardier acquisition and will pay those out in November and December.

Noah Poponak — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Great. And then longer term, you’ve spoken to the mix change in the business from a revenue — percentage of revenue perspective, if we’re looking three, four, five years out, how should we think through the margin differential in defense versus aftermarket versus, I mean, I know it’s different by airplane program in the original equipment business. But just in the pieces you’re adding, whether you want to frame it by defense versus aftermarket versus the Bombardier assets. Just curious to hear you talk through the margin in those things that are mixing up?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, as we go out for the next few years, obviously next year the MAX program is still lower. So we would expect the Boeing percent of Spirit’s revenue to increase again in the future as the production rates normalize. In terms of margin, our older more mature programs tend to have higher margins as you would normally expect. But the defense margins are what you would typically expect in defense contracts. They don’t go as high, but they also are more stable even in downturn. So, those are in the kind of 12% to 14% range typically. So and that’s what we would expect as we go forward on defense.

And as I said, this year our defense business grew about 20%, next year we’re expecting 50% and we’ve got a line of sight to making it $1 billion business in 2022, 2023 timeframe, which is a little bit ahead of what we originally thought going back a couple of years ago. On aftermarket, the margins in aftermarket typically are higher, if you think of typical Spirit margins of 16.5%, aftermarket would be higher and as we go forward it’s going to be 8% of our business next year as we go forward, it will continue to grow and become a bigger portion of Spirit’s overall revenues in the future.

Noah Poponak — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Peter Arment with Baird. Please go ahead.

Peter Arment — Robert W. Baird — Analyst

Yes. Thanks, good afternoon, Tom and Mark. Thanks for squeezing me in. Tom, you gave a lot of details on Bombardier. On the synergy comment there is a 6% in terms of expected synergies. Can you give a rough timeline on when you expect to kind of achieve that and any kind of color you can give on that?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

We’re going to start immediately, but the full 6% will take us three years was our original projection and we’ll stick with that, obviously with the pandemic lots of things have changed. But we still see lots of opportunity and we feel good about a 6% number and over a three year time period.

Peter Arment — Robert W. Baird — Analyst

Is the supply chain still the biggest one of the bigger opportunities that you, kind of, called out?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, we see that, and it’s because Spirit has a lot of critical mass and scale in structures, more so than Bombardier did. And so as we bring our suppliers into the mix, we expect that we’ll be able to get to a lot more competitive outcomes.

Peter Arment — Robert W. Baird — Analyst

Appreciate the details. Thanks, Tom.

Operator

And our final question today will come from Mike Ciarmoli with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Mike Ciarmoli — Truist Securities — Analyst

Hey, good afternoon gentlemen. Thanks for squeezing me on here. I guess just back to the working capital and cash flow. Looking specifically at inventory, I mean, it continues to remain high, rates are lower, it should — we just expect you’ve got all that long-lead material. Should we expect significant declines looking at inventory contract assets, we didn’t see too much of a change sequentially. But are you haven’t walked slowing down your incoming raw materials. Just trying to get a sense of where that specific line can go under these newer reduced rates?

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I mean, you see the balance sheet. If you look at what our inventory balances are. And our business is one half the size, it was a year ago. We — very quickly reduced 737 got shutdown, we’ve gone through a series of production rate cut from a master scheduling standpoint, it takes a little time for us to slow the schedule down for you to — back to our supply chain. So there is no doubt we’re carrying extra inventory right now. And so from a planning standpoint as we factor our factory and the need from a part consumption standpoint with what we have on hand, our supply chain team is working very diligently with our suppliers to align that up accordingly as we move through the rest of this year and into next year, and we saw some modest improvement in our inventory balances come down a bit between here at the end of the third quarter, compared to the second. I expect our inventories to continue to improve as we move through the fourth quarter.

And then in 2021, I do think from a working capital standpoint, we’ll see some benefits, because we have a lot of parts, we were prepared for higher rates and therefore we’re going to — we have the parts we need and will consume them and will slowdown the incoming receipt. Obviously, we’ll have to focus and we’ll continue to work with our supply chain. We want to make sure our supply chain is healthy and they are in a position to go up in rate late next year and into 2022. So we really kind of balance both of that. We will definitely take advantage of — I think making our inventory levels, more efficient or more in alignment with what our current rates of production are, and so that will help out in 2021, as compared to where inventory levels are now.

Mike Ciarmoli — Truist Securities — Analyst

Got it. Perfect. Thanks a lot guys.

Thomas C. Gentile — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

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