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TripAdvisor Inc (TRIP) Q1 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

TRIP Earnings Call - Final Transcript

TripAdvisor Inc  (NASDAQ: TRIP) Q1 2021 earnings call dated May. 07, 2021

Corporate Participants:

Will Lyons — Vice President of Investor Relations

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Lloyd Walmsley — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

Jason Bazinet — Citigroup — Analyst

Richard Clarke — Bernstein — Analyst

Naved Khan — Truist Financial — Analyst

Deepak Mathivanan — Wolfe Research — Analyst

Shweta Khajuria — Evercore ISI — Analyst

Tom White — D.A. Davidson & Co. — Analyst

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Vince Ciepiel — Cleveland Research — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Tripadvisor’s First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today’s conference call is being recorded.

At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Tripadvisor’s Vice President of Investor Relations, Mr. Will Lyons. Please go ahead.

Will Lyons — Vice President of Investor Relations

Thanks, Laurie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our call. Joining me today are Tripadvisor’s CEO, Steve Kaufer and our CFO, Ernst Teunissen.

Last night, after market close, we distributed and filed our first quarter 2021 earnings release and made available our shareholder letter on our Investor Relations website. In the release, you will find reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed on this call. On our IR site, you will find supplemental financial information, which includes reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call as well as other metrics.

I also note that comments we may make regarding cost saving levels referenced on this call do not consider depreciation, amortization, restructuring and other related organization costs or stock-based compensation.

Before we begin, I’d like to remind you that this call may contain estimates and other forward-looking statements that represent management’s views as of today, May 7th, 2021. Tripadvisor disclaims any obligation to update these statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Please refer to our earnings release as well as our filings with the SEC for information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Steve.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Will, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. As covered in our shareholder letter last night, I’m pleased to say that consumer demand and revenue performance as a percentage of 2019 levels improved sequentially on our platform in both February and March. This was led by the U.S. market where vaccination trends accelerated during the period. Traffic to our U.S. hotel pages approached 80% of our 2019 levels in March.

Two of our key offerings that lagged last year are our hotel metasearch auction and experiences are showing nice improvement so far this year, again due to increased U.S activity. Europe lagged due to lockdowns but demand picked up in April and we’re optimistic for broadened international recovery as vaccination rates improve. As with Q1 trends in the U.S. and some other countries contrast greatly with challenges in many other parts of the world like in India.

And I just want to say that our thoughts are with all of our colleagues in India as well as their families and of course, everyone who is struggling so hard with this terrible situation. These contrasting trends that we are seeing support our overall view that the road to recovery is in fact uneven.

So travel is certainly not out of the woods, but we have a positive start to the year. We remain quite optimistic about the second half 2021, as the number of people vaccinated increases, countries reopen and the leisure traveler recovery broadens. People want to travel and we are certain that when they feel safe to do so, they will travel.

But the Tripadvisor story is more than just the recovery. We have and will continue to position the business for future growth by leveraging our platform’s breadth and our competitive strengths and executing on our strategic initiatives. Pre-pandemic, we grew many offerings by double-digits, including our B2B business, display advertising, experiences and dining. We’ve been actively improving these products as well as our tech and our go-to-market strategies in order to deliver customers the best experience possible and drive diverse growth. Add to that the innovation that we’re bringing into travel in terms of our new subscription product Tripadvisor Plus.

As many of you know from our last quarterly remarks, we see a huge opportunity ahead and fully expect that Plus is going to be a very exciting part of our future. We remain in beta in the U.S. today, but are pleased with our progress as we work to improve the product for consumers and work closely with partners to build out the offering.

Converting even a small percentage of engaged Tripadvisor traffic, not to mention the hundreds of millions of visitors per month that are searching on Tripadvisor for hotels and experiences, implies a potential long-term growth opportunity of tens of millions of subscribers and a multibillion dollar recurring revenue stream.

I’ll note that absolutely none of this is possible without the team, and I want to thank everyone at Tripadvisor for their ongoing commitment to helping millions of consumers and partners get back to travel. We’ve grown accustomed to executing through tremendous unpredictability and I’ve been very proud of their continued resilience. I remain very optimistic about what’s ahead.

And with that, Ernst, let me turn it over to you for some additional thoughts.

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. I first just want to echo some of Steve’s comments, uneven trends and uncertainty persists, but improvements have been encouraging. I remain pleased and impressed with our team’s continued operational focus and how they rallied together to strengthen Tripadvisor not for only a strong recovery, but for the long run.

Q1 demand and revenue trends indeed reflected our commentary back in February with varied stories by geography and by offering. Progress in the U.S., almost single-handedly drove sequential revenue improvements in our business in February, March and in April.

On the other hand, persistent lock-downs across Europe and challenges throughout international markets as well as the absence of international travel remain significant drags on our results. The good news is that there is a lot of room for continued improvements in the periods to come in the U.S., but especially in Europe and beyond as the number of people vaccinated increases, countries reopen, and the leisure travel recovery broadens.

I want to quickly highlight three financial themes that remain within our control; driving significant cost savings, ensuring a solid liquidity position, and laying the groundwork for compelling and profitable growth when the pandemic subsides.

Firstly, regarding costs. We continue operating effectively and efficiently as a leaner company. Operating expenses in Q1 were 32% lower year-on-year. We expect the majority of the fixed cost savings that we generated in 2020 to persist, positioning us for operating leverage as the travel environment normalizes.

On the liquidity front, in Q1, we completed an opportunistic convertible debt capital raise which further fortifies our balance sheet, with $674 million of cash on our balance sheet at the end of the last quarter, plus an undrawn credit facility for which covenant flexibility was achieved last year, as well as enhanced operating leverage as revenues comes back, we believe we are in a strong liquidity position.

And finally, throughout the pandemic, we have been focused on driving improvements across our platform. We expect that these efforts will pay dividends as faster growth and more efficiency across our various revenue lines as the market recovers.

So, in summary, much uncertainty remains, but green shoots have definitely started to emerge. We remain optimistic that leisure travel will come roaring back as early as the second half of the year, and are pleased with the ongoing work that will enhance our positioning well into the future.

With that, we will now open the call for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Lloyd Walmsley [Phonetic] of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Lloyd Walmsley — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

All right, thanks. Two questions if I can. First, just in the shareholder letter, you mentioned kind of credit card partnerships with Tripadvisor Plus. Can you just help us understand, conceptually, how something like that might work? Is that your credit card company paying some you know full freight, half freight, like how would that work in terms of paying for Plus benefits for their members?

Would it be, you know their cardholders would have to activate it, where they just pay kind of in blanket? How do those deals work and what kind of like bounties come with those, if you guys can sign up credit cards for them, if you can flesh that out a little bit?

And then, the second one just on the U.S. auctions. Seems like it’s clearly coming back at 80% of April levels or 80% of ’19 levels in April. But that’s a little bit behind, at least, some of the OTA commentary on U.S. booking level. So wondering if you can help us kind of bridge the timing differences and how you guys think about the category of meta catching up relative to, I guess, OTA bookings and revenue. Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Thanks, Lloyd. This is Steve. Maybe I’ll take the first question and Ernst will take the second. There is a couple of different ways that we’re looking to work with credit card companies. The first could be on the part of a more higher-end credit card that carries some interesting travel benefits already or may be a particular financial institution wants to break into that pretty lucrative category of travel.

And so the travel reward or one of the travel rewards with the credit card would be a subscription to Tripadvisor Plus. That type of model would generally have the credit card where the financial institution paying Tripadvisor on behalf of the customer a — perhaps a somewhat discounted off of list price rate, but that every credit card company would — I mean, every credit card customer would automatically become a Tripadvisor Plus subscription.

That’s a great deal for Tripadvisor. It’s a way to enhance the credit card in a very meaningful and differentiated way for a financial institution, but obviously those deals take a little while to put together and have to find the right partner in and we’re still in beta as a product.

Another option, certainly being explored with other financial institutions just simply include a discount perhaps or a free trial. So, a way to get started with Tripadvisor Plus subscription reaching an interesting audience. And, again, it’s something that the consumer would likely activate themselves, auto renew on when we get someone to actually try the product and we are completely convinced that once someone sees what Tripadvisor Plus offers by way of discounts on all the hotels and all the experiences, the additional value propositions that we’re bundling with the product, we think that that renewal will come rather simply. Ernst?

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Hello, Lloyd. With regards to the auction and particularly the U.S. auction, have seen significant improvement throughout the start of the year. We said in our shareholder letter that in March we reached, in the U.S., about 67% of 2019, in April that was nearly 80%, and right now we’re above 90% in the U.S. compared to 2019. So rapidly increasing performance.

A lot of domestic U.S. travel that is helping us here and we’re pretty excited about that. The auction seems to be performing very nicely, CPCs are recently roughly at 2019 levels. So the auction is very healthy indeed and the OTAs, obviously, are actively participating in that.

So very pleased with how that’s going and a good sign for what may happen with our European business, which is now very suppressed in the second half of the year.

Lloyd Walmsley — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

All right, guys. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Jason Bazinet of Citi. Your line is open.

Jason Bazinet — Citigroup — Analyst

I just had a quick question on Plus. As you’ve had discussions with sort of your hotel partners, are there any sort of broad parameters of things they’re excited about or concerned about as they sort of contemplate putting some of their inventory into the program? Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Jason, thanks much. We’ve certainly had a quite a few discussions with hotel chains, independent hotels and we feel we’re making good progress. Well, look, let me just kind of back up and just remind everyone that we’re at super early days about bringing this whole new subscription model to travel and hotel discounts are obviously a core part of that consumer value proposition.

And, in doing so, we’re actively engaging with chains and independent hoteliers and listening closely for what they like, areas that they can — that we can improve upon, and ultimately, how we get to everyone to join the program.

We’re absolutely dedicated to making a win for hoteliers just as much as it’s a win for the travelers. So what we’ve learned over the past couple of months is that a number of chains and independent hoteliers really like what we’re doing. They’re perfectly comfortable with how we’re displaying the Plus, our merchandising, how we’re — how we require a traveler to buy a Plus subscription in order to book at discounted rate.

And that’s what we call a hard gate and frankly that’s what makes Plus so different from the legacy hotel discount service.

Jason Bazinet — Citigroup — Analyst

So, if you — no, go ahead, sorry.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Go ahead.

Jason Bazinet — Citigroup — Analyst

I was just going to ask, if you had to sort of rank order the risk of this not achieving your expectations, what would sort of be at the top of the list and what’s at the bottom. Sounds like the value proposition to the consumer is easy, right? So that one doesn’t seem to be a constraint. What would be towards the top of your list of the things that you’re more nervous about?

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it’s a great question. I do think a lot are valid [Phonetic] because I love trying to kind of punch holes in our thesis going forward. And like, we have the traffic on the site, we shouted about 160 million shots on goal, people that are clicking on our meta links in 2019. It’s a great opportunity. We’re signing up independent hoteliers and they’re comfortable with the product.

We’ve had some pushback from some chains, but they really don’t speak with just one voice. So, a number are coming forward, saying, “Hey, it’s exciting, let’s enter in negotiations” these see this as a great channel for Tripadvisor — for themselves, and they want to make sure their properties essentially get their fair share of bookings from this product.

Other chains are a little bit more nervous about how we’re showing the rate, and we’ve taken that as great sort of constructive feedback and we’re addressing it. So we’re in conversations with, I want to say, every single chain about what it will take to make them feel very comfortable about joining the program.

You asked me about concerns, and I just kind of want to make the point that we don’t need universal coverage for this product because we have travelers going to say Cancun and they want to see some amazing deals, and we want to present dozens of deals, but we don’t need to display hundreds of deals.

And if you think all the way back to Instant Book, it was kind of different back then. But here, we’re able to promote the deals that we’re getting from chains or independents wherever we get them, and the kind of the better the deal, the more we’re interested in promoting it to the traveler. And we’ve seen, over the past several months, traveler savings literally more than a — our best savings is more than a $1,000 every single days since we launched the product and like pretty compelling numbers there.

And so, when we talk about the demand we already have on the site, I believe and partnerships, which I’m happy to go into more. I — on the supply side, we have independents joining, we have good progress on negotiations with the chains. And some of the chain — and we want to make sure that we have participation from as many as we can, because some of those chains have the absolute best properties — absolute best properties around and so, we want every property to be able to join the program.

But the point I was trying to make is, we don’t need every property. We just need a few dozen in all the geographies that people are traveling to. So, it may take a little longer than others for some of the chains to hop on-board, to see the benefit. But we want to make sure all of their properties, again, get the share of bookings that Plus will be driving.

Jason Bazinet — Citigroup — Analyst

It’s great color. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Richard Clarke of Bernstein. Your line is open.

Richard Clarke — Bernstein — Analyst

Hi there. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple if I may. You’ve provided some very helpful color there on where we are in terms of US bookings, both for the auction product and the experiences. Would it be possible to get kind of the similar commentary for the rest of the world in aggregate or broken it down? Are we seeing any progress as we’ve kind of exited the quarter outside the U.S.?

And then, maybe just a quick follow-up on the Plus product. I think we’ve seen a few comment that supply has come down a little bit over the last month and there isn’t as much into Memorial Day as there was a couple of months ago. Is that just a natural result of the shift from wholesale supply to direct partnership supply and where are you in that process of shifting to that direct partnership supply?

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Thank you, Richard. I’ll start with the commentary about outside the U.S. much more muted, more like Q4 throughout Q1. More green shoots more recently starting in Q2, in April and in May, but more depressed in the U.S. because of the lack of the rollout of the vaccine in Europe and the lock-downs, many lock-downs by countries.

But this is starting to change. We see that the UK is very much ahead with the vaccines and travel incentives increasing there. We see a thawing in our restaurant business. And reminder, last year, as soon as the restaurants opened in Europe, our Fork business bounced back to 2019 levels very quickly in the last Q3.

We’re starting to see restaurants open. There is a timetable for OYO restaurants open in Europe now which is in the next few weeks in most countries, Italy is partially opened, Spain in partially opened and in those markets where we’re partially — UK has just opened.

In those markets where we’re partially opened, we immediately see revenues jump back. So recent green shoots across Europe and — but we anticipate that Europe is, although behind the U.S., is going to catch up with the U.S. in the back half of the year.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Richard for the Plus question as well. I’d give a short answer by saying simply, we’re in discussions with a number of different aggregators, the ones we’ve brought on originally that helped us deliver such a comprehensive amount of supply right out the gate as well as independents and chains, who are direct supply effort. That’s caused some variation, as you noted on the site. I’d say it’s less seasonally related and more an aspect of how we’re going to market with our direct connectivity, direct supply and how we’re working with the different set of aggregators. I’d say, expect more change going forward.

We’re a test and learn company. This is a brand new product. We’re innovating about the best ways that we can display inventory, display great discounts for travelers, while at the same time respecting the wishes of hotels who want to make sure their inventory, their prices are displayed in a way that they’re comfortable with.

So, as you continue to look at the site, you’ll see some more tests coming, some more changes coming in the next weeks and months, and that’s part of the reason why we’re still in beta as we hone in on what makes for a great consumer experience with a nice breadth of inventory coverage.

Richard Clarke — Bernstein — Analyst

Wonderful. Thanks for the color.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Naved Khan of Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Naved Khan — Truist Financial — Analyst

Yeah, hi. Thanks a lot. Maybe first on Trip Plus, maybe can you give us a sense of the scope of the beta? How much traffic was exposed to it? And has the beta so far caused you to recalibrate your expectations up or down? Any color on that would be great. And then, on the Plus profit still, I think last time you disclosed more than 100,000 properties. Do you have an updated number you can share? Has that number grown versus where it was previously?

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure, thanks Naved. So we have been, since we rolled out beta earlier in the year, which was on a very small percent of our traffic, we rolled it up to north of 75% in the U.S. in terms of chances of seeing Tripadvisor because we want to get as kind of — as much experimental data as we can for how consumers are interacting.

On any sort of given day, you might have four or five different Plus related tests running as we, again, hone in on kind of what makes the best style merchandising, how the checkout flow works, how we’re sorting different properties to the top of our list. Lots of different things that are all part of the equation.

Would I been in U.S. [Phonetic] calibrating up or down, I’m getting more bullish on the opportunity because I see the types of savings that consumers are achieving and they’re pretty compelling, our average saving is north of $300 and there is several times every day when someone is saving more $1,000.

And that’s a meaningful number for changing the type of the trip that that traveler can have and as word spreads that “Hey, all of this is available with this new Tripadvisor Plus subscription product,” I look three to five years out, and I’d say “Of course somebody and darn it that’s going to be us, is going to have a travel subscription product with tens of millions of subscribers because it’s such a logical fit into the ecosystem.”

Subscription is clearly improving in so many different categories now and we’ve priced this, we feel, appropriately so that — so that a lot of people can afford to subscribe. I mean do the math. At $100 a year, it’s less than $9 a month, what a great deal to be able to get the type of discounts on hotels, 10% off on all the bookable experiences on Tripadvisor. You’ll soon see some of the other things that we’re adding in into the package and it’s just a great notion and frankly great business model for us.

So I’m getting more bullish on the opportunity as I’ve seen more of the customer reaction and frankly I’m getting or I’m being careful myself to temper my enthusiasm about what this looks like in five years with how quickly we can get there because I’m constantly reminded, there isn’t another travel subscription product out there. People aren’t comparing this with something else.

It’s a new concept that we’re introducing to people and I have to be a little bit patient about the time it takes to educate folks, time it takes — even though we have these no-brainer moments, the time it takes to — for us to help persuade them that it’s a very clear savings. So I am reminded by my team. I remind everyone that this is really early days in a great new product category and success is measured in years, not months.

And that’s the way we’re approaching it because it’s, again, I’ll try to be more succinct here. I believe even more in the category, love it. It will take us some time to get there. I’m impatient by personality, but I understand these things. It will take some time and super excited.

To your property count question, I don’t want to hang too much on specific property counts because what we found is, it’s really the combination of the discount level we’re getting, how that compares to other partners of the prices that we’re showing that drives a lot of the — a lot of the bookings. So not surprisingly, a very small discount.

If we have a lot of properties with a very small discount, it doesn’t move the needle for us. But when we’re getting the 10%, 15%, 30%, 40% discounts, those become best sellers pretty quickly and we’re really helping those hotels fill that empty room and that’s why — that’s why the whole model is so powerful. Thanks.

Naved Khan — Truist Financial — Analyst

Great. Yeah, thanks for the color. Maybe a quick question maybe on the Viator distribution deal, when should — when can we start to see the P&L impact? Obviously, the economy is still reopening, but just maybe talk about that, maybe how the economics might be structured and is there a potential to do more distribution deals such as this?

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So I’ll try to answer that and then I’ll let Ernst comment. Part of Viator’s business model is as a player for all the different points of sale. And so whether that’d be a Booking.com, an Expedia, other OTAs, including kind of the traditional offline travel agencies. So they’re very good at or very good at distributing that type of inventory.

And again, it’s early days in the recovery of all experiences. Thrilled with the partnership with Booking.com. A great company to work with. Obviously, we worked with them for a long time. They’re excited on the experiences side. They have some of their own plans and we’re able to complement globally for them and that’s, from our perspective, quite exciting. Ernst, do you want to add anything?

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I would add is the fact that we are able to do distribution deals like this. It’s a reflection of the power of the supply aggregation that we put in place with Viator, second to none across the world. And we have very attractive connections with very attractive supply in experiences and that makes a partnership with players like Booking an attractive proposition for both sides. It will allow them to scale their experiences business faster and will allow us to create even more scale in our supply aggregation.

Naved Khan — Truist Financial — Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Deepak Mathivanan with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Deepak Mathivanan — Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking the question. A couple ones. So first, can you talk about the auction participation at this time? Are you seeing more participants come in, either hotels or more OTAs beyond your large partners? Just trying to get a sense of how various players are reacting during the rebound and what the marketplace could potentially look like post-recovery?

And then, second one on Plus, I know it’s a small data point given it’s a beta right now, but as you assess the ROIs based on early data, how are you thinking about currently the potential cannibalization of meta revenues because of this product? Thank you.

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

I’ll start with the first one, Deepak, on the auction. Yeah, we’re pleased with the increased participation, the auction, especially in the U.S. coming back to live — to life. I was describing that CPCs recently have been sort of close to 2019 levels which is an indication of the health that you see emerging. I said that our revenue very recently has been sort of above 90% in the U.S. versus 2019. And so the auction is regaining health sequentially and we’re very pleased with that.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

And I’ll jump in on the Plus question. So while we certainly keep a very close eye on cannibalization and when we put a Plus offer at the top of the sword [Phonetic] quarter, while one still can click on a meta link from that Plus offer and people do, we’re obviously trying and succeeding at driving a bunch traffic into the Plus flow.

Too hard to say what the complete ROI is going to be because we really don’t have data on renewal rates, but if we make reasonable assumptions and we clean up a few of the loose ends on the conversion path to make that more effective, I’m quite confident that we’ll get to a positive — a clearly positive draw on the dilution for the auction in place of the subscription revenue.

The other thing that clearly helps the cause is that folks who become subscribers of Plus come back more frequently and whether they’re coming back to book another Plus hotel or a hotel that’s not Plus, but the fact is the regular auction meta-click they believe and they are much more loyal to Tripadvisor.

And so. We’re also looking at that repeat behavior and seeing how that boosts our domain direct traffic, which in turn boosts our overall auction revenue outside of Plus. As you point out, very early days, pretty hard for us to measure right now those kind of medium to long-term benefits but what we’re seeing so far looks positive.

Deepak Mathivanan — Analyst

Got it. Okay, thanks guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Shweta Khajuria of Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Shweta Khajuria, your line is open.

Shweta Khajuria — Evercore ISI — Analyst

I’m sorry, I was muted. Can you hear me?

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes.

Shweta Khajuria — Evercore ISI — Analyst

Okay, sorry about that. So, could you please remind us how the pricing will work with Trip Plus so there is — I know there was a question asked, there is wholesale pricing, there is consumer pricing, but how are you thinking about that? So it’s a $100 night, you just pass the discount through to the subscriber and you get a subscription fee, but the subscriber sees $85 or something like that. And would it be different in terms of how much you pass through, whether it’s a chain or an independent hotelier. Just could you please remind us how you’re thinking about that?

And then the second is, what would — what are you looking for in terms of supply on the platform. In terms of engagement that will trigger a full launch out of beta. So, what are some of the metrics that you think will let you launch the product fully, whether in the U.S. or globally? Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks Shweta. Excellent two part question there. So, the basic model we’re working with and there perhaps are some exceptions is that we’re encouraging hotels of all types to identify a discount that we are able to pass along to the traveler. And we’re in fact passing along the entire discount they’re able to offer to be kind of the most beneficial to the consumer to get them — to get that consumer to book to the properties.

So, if an independent hotel ABC says, “Look, really interesting demand for these for dates, we’ll give — we’ll offer a 25% discount.” That 25% discount flow straight through to the consumer. That means when someone is looking for a couple of nights stay at a 25% off at a decent average daily rate that might now be a $300 savings for that trip. And the consumer sees, wow, that’s a great savings, love this hotel, highly ranked, in the location I want. And consumer saves $300, we charge them $99, net savings of $200 and it’s a win-win-win all around.

A different hotel may only choose to offer a 10% off, which is something we would still offer, but it’s not as compelling to the traveler. For an existing Plus subscriber, “Hey, that’s still nice.” For a brand new Plus subscriber, for one night stay, that’s probably not or perhaps isn’t going to trigger a subscription purchase. But that same hotel 10% off for seven nights stay probably does add up to quite a bit of savings.

So, we leave that up to the hotel. I mean there is a minimum discount when we sign up the hotels, but that is something that they can kind of toggle up and down depending on their demand needs at a particular point in time.

And then — I mean, I hope that kind of answered how we kind of deal with discounts. Of course, down the road, we could always choose to not pass along the full discount to the consumer, but that’s not our plans at the moment is, as we want this to kind of catch fire with consumers as quickly as possible. Maximizing the discount is one way to do that and we’re still making our money on subscription and growing that recurring revenue stream.

In terms of the Plus supply/launch criteria, supply is one aspect of it. We’re looking to kind of hone the consumer experience i.e. kind of make the conversion flow as straightforward as possible, make sure that all the ticks and ties, the nuts and bolts of building this and making sure it’s working on all of our devices is kind of — is up to snuff.

We don’t have, and we don’t feel it’s necessary a hard and fast, we must have X number of properties at a Y discount level, but we do look around at obviously our major geographies, we look and say, “Are we offering a set of hotels that are compelling in terms of discount and compelling properties themselves.” And we know we’ll never get it right or we’re not waiting to have every city looking great before we launch.

But again, the product is available to most of — the clear majority of our traffic right now. We simply haven’t launched it to our members and started up our PR machine. And the rest of the way is, when it goes about launching the product. But as I say, that will come soon and we’re just putting the finishing touches on this is how I phrase it.

Shweta Khajuria — Evercore ISI — Analyst

Okay, very helpful. Thanks, Steve.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Tom White of D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Tom White — D.A. Davidson & Co. — Analyst

Great, thanks for taking my questions. I guess firstly, I was hoping you give us an update on your progress around leveraging the massive amount of customer data that you guys have and making it more actionable, any way you can kind of quantify the potential benefit to the business, maybe you hope to see from that, be it more repeat rates, higher conversion. And also, where does this rank kind of on your priorities, maybe it’s kind of fallen down the pecking order, just given the focus on Plus and making sure you optimize around the recovery.

And then, just a quick follow-up on Plus. Steve, you remarked how no other online travel platforms has kind of launched a subscription offering for consumers, just curious on that? I mean is that just because you — because maybe the OTAs from day one have sort of been set up to kind of optimize around transactions and kind of e-commerce conversion or do you think there are other reasons why no one else has done something like this?

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. A couple part question there. So I’ll try to deal with first ones first, data to make it more actionable. We certainly have — I’ve been talked about a lot, but we have been continuously doing that in our CPM or display ad business, helping to target with the [Indecipherable] segmentation. I don’t mean by geography, but lots of different aspects and that’s what enables us to command a premium CPM in most of our display business. So we are doing that, have been making progress.

When it comes to Tripadvisor Plus, certainly our go-to-market plans do involve looking at a lot of our internal historical data, the travelers who we think would be great Plus customers, how we approach them with an offer or something different than how we’re mass marketing to all of our visitor audience.

So I’d say the data and analytics part is in service to that, to that Plus subscription priority as we launch. When I look at a bunch of the activity that’s going on. We aren’t doing a lot as you haven’t seen on the site in terms of pure recommendation type capabilities. We’re adding a bunch, you’ll see some of it in experiences going forward, but again, it’s a matter of priorities. We have a bit more focus on Plus than the hotel auction in that regard at the moment. But suffice to say, we do have teams working on bringing that data to life, just haven’t given it a lot of air time historically.

To the second part of the question; Yes, Tripadvisor Plus, we expect will be first kind of mass-market travel subscription product and we’re investing a ton behind it and it really is a very different model than the traditional store. And so OTAs like an Expedia or a Booking are tremendous companies, have super brand awareness, a great product offering for travelers. They’re both wonderfully global. But they’ve built their business around a commission orientation which, to be clear, is a great business.

We’ve been in the lead generation business for hotels, the transaction business just like the other OTAs for experiences and now we’re introducing this new direct-to-consumer subscription model. So it’s not that other folks can’t, it’s that it’s a new way to think of something in travel. And because of — well, the challenge with somebody else doing it, a start-up or a new company is that they may not have the traffic to expose to the subscription — expose the subscription product to. But that’s not Tripadvisor’s challenge, we already have so much of the traffic.

So, the opportunity to sell a subscription product for an occasional use, unlike the Netflix or an Amazon Prime, you’re not watching a movie or buying something every week or every month. Travel is more episodic, but the value that we’re presenting in this form of subscription is oftentimes much higher and can offer that instant savings. Because we have the traffic is why we think we’ll be successful where others might be challenged.

Tom White — D.A. Davidson & Co. — Analyst

Great, thanks for the color.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of James Lee of Mizuho Securities. Your line is open.

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Great, thanks for taking my questions. A couple of questions on Plus here. Maybe, can you guys talk about the checkout process here, it’s the entire sign up and booking flow on your website or do you need to actually click at a website here?

And just curious, what is your cancellation policy for membership. And lastly, I think, Steve, you talked about the deals in general, that’s great, saving about 30% to 40%. I’m just curious, are these hotel deals you’re able to negotiate, are they exclusive to Tripadvisor? Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks, James. Excellent questions. Going forth, the checkout flow is all on Tripadvisor. We’re not sending you to any other website. We are the entity that’s making the reservation for you. If there is anything wrong or you want to change, you’re calling us and we’re helping you through the process, whether that’d be for the attraction that you booked with a discount or the hotel that you booked with a discount, we’re it, and that’s a very deliberate choice.

We’re also it in terms of hoping to get that second booking for the same trip or the very next trip. We operate on a very hotel-friendly policy in terms of when someone books the hotel on Tripadvisor, we’re sharing the sole name information, everything directly with the hotelier as part of the reservation.

And we’re encouraging the hotelier to try to upsell that client with a spa treatment or whatever or room service, whatever else that they may — might will be able to do or have them join the hotel’s loyalty program, everything like that. So that’s all good and in fact encouraged from us.

Cancellation policy for Trip Plus, super consumer friendly now. It’s essentially, if you look around and you’re not going to use the subscription, we’ll let you cancel, I think it’s currently 30 days, but we’ll probably extend that.

And then, you can envision kind of going forward, it’s not a monthly subscription, it’s an annual subscription. So if you, for whatever reason, haven’t been able to use the product, we don’t feel you should be paying for it, but if you have used the product, then it’s not refundable, you have it for the whole rest of the year. And frankly, if you’re using it once a year, you’re probably making your money and if you’re using it twice a year, it clearly equate savings.

Third part of the question, are the deals exclusive to Tripadvisor? They can be. That’s really up to the hotel. We are — as we contract with the hotels, we are not demanding that it’d be exclusive for other channels. But what’s going to happen is that if a hotel offers us a 15% discount to be part of Plus and they simultaneously give that 15% discount to an OTA, then it will never be merchandised on Tripadvisor as a Plus deal, because it’s not cheaper than what’s showing up in our meta auction and — or the reason again we’re different is because we’re requiring our travelers to buy the subscription product before they can book this discounted hotel.

And that’s the hard gate, that’s the pay gate that enables hotels to give us a discount that they’re not putting out there on their own website or through other channels and that’s what makes our deals special. So, in the weeds I guess if the hotel is offering this discount — same discount on some other opaque discount site or packaged with an airline flight, that would be fine with us.

But if it’s also on a deal that’s also on their own website, then they’re just — it’s not going to work. We’re not going to merchandise their property as a Plus property on Tripadvisor because it’s not a compelling value proposition.

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Great. And just a follow-up question here on a separate topic. And this product you guys haven’t talk about in the while which is news-feed or you guys call feed product, any progress on that front specifically? And just couple of quarters ago, you talk about feeds are very important for you guys to drive login users and any update on that too? Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

I’m sorry, I want to — I want to make sure I understand the question. Could you re-ask it? I wasn’t quite catching it.

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Yeah, Steve, I think couple of quarters ago, you guys introduced a very much a news-feed like product, very similar to Facebook where people can put inspirational pictures, videos onto your [Speech Overlap]

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. I got it. Yeah, certainly more than a couple of quarters ago that was what threw me. A couple of years ago, we had a social feed to the product, a lot of that is still live on the site, you can still post, you can still follow. It was a great way to engage more users. It generated a lot more sort of content and guides for us. That was all very helpful.

And we had been investing in it. Then you know pandemic and Tripadvisor Plus came and we realized that this opportunity is kind of far more interesting, far more sustainable and it didn’t have — I want to call it a perceived competitive threat from other social networks. And we were not at all trying to be a social network.

But the short answer is, yes, that’s still live on the site. We’re adding, I think the numbers we’re adding, more than 100,000 new members every day just as part of people joining Tripadvisor because it’s a great site to join. And so, we’re able to market to those people.

So, growing membership is something that we’re already, I think, quite good at engaging those members in our newer offerings like Tripadvisor Plus and focus on experiences, I think is the fun part of the game right now. So at the end of the day, we look at how can we best deliver an amazing vacation, amazing travel experience to consumers?

And we’re doing that with the content on Tripadvisor, the content you’re used to in terms of using photos the new content, the guides and the new ways we’re educating users about destinations and COVID information that we’re adding as well as obviously Trip Plus, the ability to save the time and have a much better vacation because of your ability to stay an extra night or to take that extra special tour or to otherwise see the location in a way that you hadn’t been able to before.

James Lee — Mizuho Securities — Analyst

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

And our final question comes from Vince Ciepiel. Your line is open.

Vince Ciepiel — Cleveland Research — Analyst

Great, thanks. You mentioned U.S. auction coming back to life, your peers have alluded to much stronger booking trends in the domestic market. And amidst that backdrop, just kind of curious how you’ve seen Reco and the insurance product progress, which was a direct-to-consumer offering that you rolled out.

And then a second part, a different product B2B, I think it was Reputation Pro and Spotlight. Curious how those are progressing as well as demand is improving? Thanks.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. Excellent questions there. So Reco, really fun product, but definitely aimed at the bigger, usually more international trip. That’s where you get to connect with a travel agent that’s really an expert or a trip designer we call them, really an expert in — in the field that you’re interested in the type of trip that you’re taking and people have not been taking those types of trips over the past couple of quarters.

We launched the product right as the pandemic was starting. And we did not — we chose not to put the product on ice and wait. We chose to continue to iterate and improve, even though we didn’t have a lot of usage. And so now, as travel comes back, as Europe says they’re open up to U.S. travelers this summer, we look forward to being able to really give the product a great test run out there with tons of users connecting and looking at — and hopefully the NPS scores that we’re seeing continue to shine and let that product sort of gain some organic traction.

For the second part of your question on the B2B side, Spotlight, Reputation Pro, excellent products. Again launched, revamped in the middle of a pandemic when it’s both tough to reach hoteliers as well as tough to sell something new to them. So I think the — 2021, certainly the back half year will be a great time to — for us to be looking and saying, “How are these doing?” We’re able — hotels are clearly opening up. Demand is growing here in the U.S. We’re getting some stronger upticks of interest now, at least in the U.S., but it is a worldwide product set.

And so, it will be a great question for us to update you on in another quarter or two. It’s been slow over the pandemic time, but we’re not discouraged because we actually think these products — we know these products are really quite valuable to the hotels that we’re selling to.

Ernst Teunissen — Chief Financial Officer

And Vince, as we are sort of filling out the tour of all the different revenue lines, I also want to highlight experiences, which we haven’t talked about. We talked a bit about the Viator deal. But Experiences is really a highlight in this past quarter. And right now Experience is very much lagging in 2020 during the — in 2020, but really coming to life in the U.S. this quarter.

We said in our prepared remarks that U.S. point of sale booking levels reached 50% of 2019 in March. That was substantially up from earlier in the quarter and from before and has moved further up in April and now into May and U.S. as a destination has been very powerful for us and a good driver of the business. So Experience is coming back to life and we’re looking with enthusiasm what we can do for the rest of the year there.

Vince Ciepiel — Cleveland Research — Analyst

Thanks for all the detail.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

And there are no other questions at this time, I will now turn the call over back to Steve Kaufer.

Stephen Kaufer — President & Chief Executive Officer

Super. Thank you everyone for joining the call. Time and time again, travelers rebounded and travelers have come back to Tripadvisor. We’ll continue executing our strategy and ensure Tripadvisor plays an influential role in travel’s recovery. Again, I want to thank all of our employees globally as well as all of our Tripadvisor customers worldwide.

I also want to thank our shareholders for their shared belief that Tripadvisor can play a key role in shaping travel in the years ahead. Please get your vaccines and stay safe. I look forward to updating everyone on our progress next quarter.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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