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Verra Mobility Corporation (VRRM) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Verra Mobility Corporation (NASDAQ: VRRM) Q1 2023 Earnings Call dated May. 04, 2023

Corporate participants:

Mark ZindlerVice President of Investor Relations

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Daniel MooreCJS Securities — Analyst

Faiza AlwyDeutsche Bank — Analyst

James FaucetteMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Keith HousumNorthcoast Research — Analyst

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Verra Mobility First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

I will now turn the conference over to Mark Zindler, Vice-President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Mark ZindlerVice President of Investor Relations

Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Verra Mobility’s First Quarter 2023 earnings call. Today we’ll be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed. With me on the call are David Roberts, Verra Mobility’s Chief Executive Officer; and Craig Conti, our Chief Financial Officer. David will begin with prepared remarks, followed by Craig, and then we’ll open up the call for Q&A.

Make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking, including statements concerning our expected future business and financial performance, our plans to execute on our growth strategy, the benefits of our strategic acquisitions, our ability to maintain existing and acquire new customers, expectations regarding key operational metrics and other statements regarding our plans and prospects.

Forward-looking statements may often be identified with words such as we expect, we anticipate or upcoming. These statements reflect our view only as of today, May 4, 2023, and should not be considered our views as of any subsequent date. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are not promises or guarantees of future performance and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from our expectations. For a discussion of other – for a discussion of material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to those contained in our 2022 annual report on Form 10-K, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.verramobility.com and on the SEC’s website at sec.gov.

Finally, during today’s call, we’ll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is included in our earnings release, which can be found on our website at ir.verramobility.com and on the SEC’s website at sec.gov.

With that, I’ll turn the call over to David.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mark, and thanks for everyone for joining the call today. Today’s call, I’ll start with an overview of our excellent first quarter results and provide an update on key business drivers. I’ll move on to a discussion of the industry trends that are driving our results and influencing our future views of the business and I’ll close with the recap of our strategic priorities across each of our business segments and share a summary tracking our progress. We delivered exceptional first quarter results, highlighted by strong revenue and adjusted EBITDA and solid free-cash flow generation. We delivered $192 million of revenue in the first quarter, representing 13% growth over the prior year quarter. This was primarily driven by strong tolling trends in Commercial Services and increase recurring service revenue in Government Solutions. Adjusted EBITDA of $88 million for the first quarter increased 17% over the prior year and was driven by volume-based operating leverage in both Commercial Services and Government Solutions. As a note, we had a catch up entry in government solutions that benefited revenue and adjusted EBITDA by about $2 million. Craig will provide the details in his remarks.

Starting with Commercial Services, I’ll provide an overview of the first quarter performance for each of our segments. The CS team again delivered strong performance revenue of approximately $86 million for the quarter represented a 17% increase over the same period last year. The primary factor driving this performance was increased volume. TSA throughput reached 100% of pre-pandemic 2019 volume driving an increase in adopted rental agreements. We also experienced strong adoption rates from renters for all inclusive tolling product offering. I am pleased to announce, we recently entered into a partnership with Telepass for rental car tolling in Italy. This partnership effectively allows Verra Mobility to offer our toll management solutions in Italy for our rental car partners and allows for interoperability across Italy, Spain, France and Portugal by utilizing Telepass’ integrations with the tolling authorities in Italy and existing integrations in the other markets. While we do not anticipate current year revenue from the partnership. This is another important milestone in building our European tolling business.

Moving to our Government Solutions business, we generated total revenue of $86 million with $83 million being recurring service revenue. Service revenue increased 14% over the first quarter of last year, driven by the transition from product sales to recurring service revenue. Government Solutions margins were about 37% in the first quarter and up about 430 basis points over the prior year quarter, primarily due to increased annual recurring revenue that I mentioned.

T2 Systems delivered revenue of $20 million, representing growth of about 12% over the prior year quarter and adjusted EBITDA of $3 million, all of which were directly in-line with our expectations. SaaS services and hardware sales were all in-line with expectations, with the latter benefiting from push of several sales from the fourth quarter due to customer request and installation timing. With regard to first quarter sales activity in T2, we had a strong booking for a large Tier 1 university in the Mid Atlantic region to extend our T2 solutions to include our parking access and control systems. On the municipal side, Ashland Kentucky was a great example of a multiple solution sale that included our permits in enforcement software T2 pay stations, Mobile paying, license plate recognition technology in citation and collection services.

Turning to the macro perspective, I’m very pleased with the demand outlook across all of our segments. Despite market sentiment that a US recession remains quite possible, we have not seen any evidence in travel demand is waning. The major US Airlines are all reporting strong bookings through the second quarter and the outlook from our rental car partners remained strong as well. In fact, while leisure travel appears to have returned to pre-COVID levels, there is still more opportunity for business travels. According to a recent survey by Deloitte, corporate travel spend in the US and Europe is projected to be about 60% of 2019 levels in the first half of 2023 and rise to about 70% by the end of the year. The report projects full recovery of business travel by late 2024 or early 2025.

A second macro trend is the continued push for safer roads and communities, which drives the need for investments in automated safety enforcement. The latest National Highway Traffic Safety data from earlier this year estimated just 0.2% decrease in US traffic fatalities in 2022, so there is still much work to do to address this trend. In addition, US traffic volumes are increasing according to the Federal Highway Administration US. Traveling on all roads and streets increased by 2%, which equates to 4.5 billion additional vehicle miles for February 2023 as compared with the same month last year. The need for road safety technology remains strong, as evidenced by recent legislative activity in the states of Florida, Colorado and Washington, which I’ll address later in my remarks.

Lastly, we provided our top three strategic priorities for each business during our fourth quarter call. On slide 5 of our earnings overview presentation, you’ll see a summary of each of these – on each of these priorities. While several our ongoing it’s difficult to quantify on a quarterly basis, we’re tracking well against each of our priorities and I’ll hit a few highlights here. In Commercial Services, we earnestly working toward renewing our agreement with Enterprise regarding adjacent expansion opportunities. We continue to execute well on the fleet management space with FMC revenue growing 13% over the same period of last year. We ultimately see FMC growing to a comparable growth rate with the overall Commercial Services business.

In Government Solutions, we’re seeing positive momentum on photo enforcement legislation in several states, including Florida, Colorado and Washington with the State of Washington recently signed into law. Florida is evaluating school zone speed and Colorado was looking at both expanding current programs and of raising new photo enforcement used cases. All of these states represent attractive opportunities for future growth and we’ll keep the market apprised as new details emerge.

In addition, the investments we’re making in our software platform and related projects are tracking toward our plan and both the timing and budget perspective we expect to complete these initiatives in the second quarter of 2024, no change from our initial expectations. And finally in T2 Systems all priorities remain on track. Our bookings in our core business are in-line with our annual plan and we expect continued growth in the municipal market in the second half of the year. In summary, our operating results and trends are all positive, business fundamentals are durable and our outlook has not changed and remains very positive.

Craig, I’ll turn it over to you to guide us through the financial results in the current year outlook.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Thanks, David. Good afternoon, and thanks to everyone for joining us on the call. I’ll start out today by providing an overview of our first quarter results followed by our 2023 financial guidance and I’ll conclude with a brief discussion on capital allocation.

Let’s turn to slide 7, which outlines revenue and adjusted EBITDA performance for the consolidated business. Total revenue increased approximately 13% year-over-year to about $192 million for the quarter, driven by strong operating performance across the company. Excluding domestic government solutions product sales in the first quarter of last year, we grew 15% year-over-year. Reoccurring service revenue grew 15% over the prior year quarter, driven by strong travel demand in the expansion of the New York City School Zone Speed Program. At a segment level, Commercial Services revenue grew 17% year-over-year, Government Solutions service revenue increased by about 14% over the prior year and T2 Systems service revenue grew 10% over the first quarter of last year. Product revenue was $7 million for the quarter, about $4 million of this total was from T2 Systems, while $3 million was from International product sales within Government Solutions.

From a total profit standpoint, consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $88 million, increased by approximately 17% over last year. The core business defined as excluding onetime domestic Government Solutions product sales generated adjusted EBITDA of approximately 18% versus first quarter of 2022. As David mentioned in his remarks, we had a catch-up entry that benefited revenue and adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter. The underlying active was operational in nature, and hence was not adjusted out of our reported revenue were adjusted EBITDA. We recognized approximately $2 million in Government Solutions revenue for photo enforcement contract activity for a prior period resulting from a contract amendment in the first quarter of 2023. Since the expenses associated with this program had already been accrued the approximate $2 million of revenue flowed through in its entirety to adjusted EBITDA and income before tax.

Moving on to slide 8, we generated about $351 million of adjusted EBITDA on approximately $763 million of revenue on a trailing 12 month basis, representing a 46% adjusted EBITDA margin, over the same period we’ve generated about $177 million of free cash flow, for 50% conversion rate of adjusted EBITDA, representing $1.13 of free cash flow per share.

Next, I will turn the Commercial Services on page 9, where we delivered revenue of about 86 million in the first quarter, increasing 17% year-over-year. Rental car tolling revenue increased 18% over the same period last year, driven by robust travel volume and increased product adoption. Additionally, our FMC business grew 13% versus Q1 of 2022, as our growth initiatives are beginning to take hold. First quarter adjusted EBITDA in Commercial Services was $54 million, representing 15% year-over-year growth. Adjusted EBITDA margins of about 63%, reflecting normal seasonality in were down slightly compared to the first quarter of last year due primarily to growth investments.

Let’s turn to slide 10 and we’ll discuss the results of the Government Solutions business. Driven primarily by New York City’s photo enforcement expansion efforts, service revenue increased by $10 million or 14% over the same period last year to $83 million for the quarter. With New York City School Zone now fully implemented, product revenue of nearly $3 million was driven by International programs. Adjusted EBITDA was $31 million for the quarter representing margins of 37%, an increase of about 430 basis points compared to the prior year, driven by the catch-up entry I previously discussed. The transition from product sales to annual recurring revenue and a reduction in bad debt expense due to improvements in cash collections.

Let’s turn to slide 11, we’ll take a look at the results of T2 Systems, which is our parking solutions business segment. Revenue of $20 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $3 million were in-line with expectations for the quarter, which included the push out of product sales in the fourth quarter due to customer requested installation timing. Software service and hardware sales were all consistent with expectations. As we discussed last quarter, we made a number of process improvements around building and strengthening the – the quality of the pipeline and improving the forecasting process and we’re very pleased with the progress the business has made.

Okay, let’s turn to slide 12 and take a look at reported income and leverage. We reported net income of approximately $5 million for the quarter, including a tax provision of $8 million, representing an effective tax rate of 63%, as a reminder, our tax rate is heavily impacted by permanent differences related to mark-to-market adjustments for our private placement warrants. Adjusted EPS, which exclude amortization, stock-based compensation and other non-recurring items, was $0.26 per share for the current quarter compared to $0.22 per share in the first quarter of 2022. On the right hand side of the page, you can see that we ended the first quarter with a net-debt balance of about $1.1 billion, resulting in net leverage of 3.2 times for the first quarter. This is down from 3.8 times net leverage in Q1 of 2022. During the first quarter, we paid down approximately $65 million of term loan debt bringing the gross debt balance at quarter end down to about $1.2 billion, of which approximately $820 million is floating-rate debt. In addition, we have also paid down an incremental $10 million of our floating debt during the second quarter of 2023. In total, on a year-to-date basis, we have paid down approximately $75 million of our floating rate term-loan debt as of today’s call. As we discussed in our fourth quarter earnings call, we entered into an interest rate swap agreement to hedge approximately $675 million notional of our floating-rate debt with a flow-for-fixed rate swap, representing about 82% of the floating-rate debt. As a reminder, the floating-rate portion of our SOFR plus 325 basis point term-loan B is fixed at a rate of 5.2% for 3 years with a monthly option to cancel beginning in December 2023, but we can execute in the event that interest rates move in our favor. Moving on the cash, we generated approximately $45 million in cash flow from operating activities resulting in $27 million of free cash flow for the quarter.

Finally, let’s turn to slide 13 and have a look at total year 2023 guidance which will remain unchanged from our discussion last quarter with our slightly elevated 1Q performance being offset by moderate investment cost increases in the back half of the year. Based on our first quarter results and our outlook for the remainder of year, we are reaffirming all of the following guidance ranges, 6% to 8% revenue growth in constant-currency, margin expansion of about 50 basis points, adjusted EPS of $1 to $1.10 per share and free cash flow of $135 to $155 million. In terms of cadence for the rest of the year, we continue to anticipate revenue and adjusted EBITDA to increase sequentially in the second and third quarters. However, as we experienced in 2022, we expect a stronger second quarter with slower sequential growth in the third quarter due to travel demand shifting forward in the year. Consistent with historical trends, we would then expect the modest projected reduction to revenue and adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter.

Relative to Commercial Services first quarter performance, PSA volume at 100% of 2019 levels and other KPIs in Commercial Services exceeded our expectations. In our guidance, we assume TSA throughput levels to be in the 97% to 98% range of 2019 volume for the remainder of the year. We’ll be monitoring TSA volume and forward travel bookings data from the airlines, but we currently continue to anticipate strong travel demand for the remainder of the year. Our guidance also contemplates increased operating and SG&A costs in Commercial Services for various for various growth initiatives as well as increased operating costs in Government Solutions for increased staffing to support the platform investments previously discussed. Finally, based on our free cash flow estimate which implies a conversion rate of about 40% of adjusted EBITDA, we expect to reduce net leverage to approximately three times by year end 2023, which contemplates a balanced approach to debt paydown and share repurchases, all in-line with what we discussed last quarter.

This concludes our prepared remarks. Thank you for your time and attention today. At this time, I would like to invite Julie to open the line for any questions. Julie, over to you.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

[Operator Instructions].

Your first question comes from Daniel Moore from CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Daniel MooreCJS Securities — Analyst

Thanks, David, Craig, for taking the questions and all the color. Good afternoon. Start with the guide, obviously, it’s very strong quarter, above our expectations and I believe consensus and it sounds like TSA back to pre-pandemic levels. So just maybe talk about your thoughts on – on holding the guidance at this stage of the year versus potentially raising it, and how much conservatism maybe in there? I can follow up, thanks.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Yeah sure, yeah, thanks – thanks – thanks for the question, Dan, thanks for being on the call. So as we think about this one from the revenue side, you’re right, the TSA throughput came to a 100% for the first quarter of 2019, and as I talked about in the prepared remarks we’re modeled in the high 90s for the balance of the year. I just – we want to see this play-out for another quarter. We don’t have any reason to believe it’s going to be any different right now, but I want to get another quarter under our belt I think at this level to see if we would go ahead and raise, that’s one-piece. I mean the second piece, Dan, on the revenue side as the GS business that favorable $2 million catch-up that we had in the GS business was onetime nonrecurring. That’s another thing I throw out there. And then if I take that – those revenue comments and slow them down to EBITDA and EPS, I think the only other thing I’d add is that we’re making those investments on the CS and GS side of the house. So in CS, those are product investments about running faster in our core markets, especially in the fleet business, which, as you heard, was up 13% in the first quarter and then it’s continued cost, we had some delayed hiring and some of the work that we’re going to do in GS on our – on the platform in the future. So as I add all those things up I still think I’m in the same spot for the year, but if travel continued strong, we’d certainly look at it in another quarter or so.

Daniel MooreCJS Securities — Analyst

Makes perfect sense and – and then maybe one follow-up related despite that increased investment SG&A continues to tick lower as a percentage of revenue obviously aided a little bit by that – the $2 million, that you talked about, but is – is that Q1 level kind of sustainable and what’s kind of a realistic goal if we look out over the next three to five years embedded in your long-term plan? Thanks again.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure, and I think, I think it was a little artificially depressed here in the first quarter. So the first thing if we did take it down to EBITDA percent probably be the easiest way to do it. So we did get a benefit obviously from a – from that catch-up entry. I don’t know if you caught it in the prepared remarks that was a 100% flow through [Indecipherable] already accrued the cost for that back in – in 2022, so when you look at the margin, you’re going to see a steep jump in to GS and then for the overall business. So if I think about total margins for the company, I still think we’re going to accrete about 0.5 point year-over-year, I still [Indecipherable] trajectory. If you look at just operating and SG&A cost as a percent of revenue, more specifically to your question, those costs especially in the GS business what we did see as a delay and some of the hiring on that just due to other priorities in the business and of course repeated head count availability in some of the skills that we’re trying to hire. So I do expect that cost to go north in the second quarter and in the back half of the year and expect to look a lot like the total year that we discussed with you last time out.

Daniel MooreCJS Securities — Analyst

Makes sense. Okay, I’ll jump back with any follow-ups. Thanks.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Your next question comes from Faiza Alwy from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Faiza AlwyDeutsche Bank — Analyst

Yes, hi, thank you. I would love a little bit more color on the Telepass partnership that you mentioned in your prepared remarks and I think I heard you say that there is no current revenue anticipated but give us a sense, sort of dimensionalize the partnership for us a little bit, yeah, any – any further color on that would be helpful.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Yeah. I mean this – this goes back to the original thesis have gone to Europe, we’ve taken we replicate the value proposition that we have for commercial fleets here in the US related to access to toll roads. In – in for the most part in Europe you’re doing that in a country-by-country basis. The partnership with Telepass would actually sort of allowing us to accelerate our access to the group of countries that I listed in my prepared remarks and so we will anticipate that we can hopefully to kind of accelerate our value to those countries. Some of that is going to be obviously working with our customers in those countries and then as we’ve spoken about the conversion to cashless one need to come alongside that to really get the full benefit of it, but Telepass is a major, major player in the toll. It’s probably the major player in Europe related to tolling. So, we’re super excited to be on the radar and have a partnership like this.

Faiza AlwyDeutsche Bank — Analyst

Got it, thank you. And then just secondly, you were just talking about certain investments across both segments. I’m curious with respect to your approach or – would you characterize these as really discretionary expenses were maybe to the extent revenue comes in, better than what you’re forecasting you may end up investing more and if it a bit lower you can pull back on some – some of the spending, to give us a sense of how you’re thinking – thinking of investments this year.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Yeah, sure, Faiza. I think I know where you’re going with that one. The – the investments that we have in the business right now, we’re gonna make pretty much regardless of the environment unless, of course, we saw something extreme. So I don’t know that I’m waiting on revenue to make these investments. I think what we’ve seen in the GS space is just simply timing. I think we have the same investment that we expected coming into the year with just the pacing of that investment is going to be weighted towards the back three quarters versus the first quarter. When I think about on the CS side, this is – this is after we’ve seen the efficacy of the early efforts that we’ve done and this is primarily in the fleet business and rounding out some additional tools that will help us capture the small and mid market players in this space as well as putting in the right commercial talent, as we’ve seen the early efficacy of those we’re doubling down on those efforts for future growth.

Faiza AlwyDeutsche Bank — Analyst

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from James Faucette from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

James FaucetteMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Hey guys, this is Jeff Goldstein on for James. I wanted to touch on the legislative opportunities and maybe just touching on Washington specifically, where you said – it was recently signed into law there. So how should we think about the timing of you getting on the ground and potentially seeing a financial impact from that and then maybe also talk us through the potential timing around recent events in Florida and Colorado as well.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Yeah. I mean, in Washington, basically becomes another state that has all three use cases related to street red-light as well as we’ve been working Washington sometime, now they have all three. So that would actually be I would anticipate time to revenue they’re shorter, I mean, we can probably depending on RFP timing and things like that – that would be a this year type of thing in terms of pipeline. Relative to places like Florida while there has been really-really positive activity, it hasn’t been signed yet. So we’ll wait obviously until that’s finalized. Those things typically take a few months relative to making sure that all the either guidance so to speak, both legislatively as well in terms of policy, in terms of how they roll it out. So I would anticipate discussions with customers this year. I would anticipate revenue for those next year.

James FaucetteMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Got it, okay and then can you talk about the shift to the all-inclusive fee structure within commercial, what are you doing there, how many customers on that type of fee structure, what type of lift do you see the revenue when you get customers on that platform – platform. Maybe just talk us through that.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Yeah, David. I mean, first of all, this is our – it’s a program that we’ve developed on behalf of customers and for the market. It’s just a really favorable customer experience because it allows you to predetermined the usage of tools as well as to have that on your bill when you’re turning your vehicle. So from that standpoint, traditionally has always been a product that was mostly at the sort of off-airport type brands, but now many of our customers are bringing that online to their airport brands or the mainline brands and so overall it’s a much better experience for customers or the renters and therefore our customers are really pleased with it as well. So we would anticipate further penetration that as more toll roads open and more – more brands decided to adopt it.

James FaucetteMorgan Stanley — Analyst

That’s helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Keith Housum from Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.

Keith HousumNorthcoast Research — Analyst

Good afternoon, guys. Just elaborating further – further on the prior question [Indecipherable] will remember the past discussions regarding the all-inclusive pricing that perhaps will have a negative impact on margins, keep press pop a little bit about the development of that product further, and do you still expect to see that upon adoption.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

I’m not sure where the negative impact on margin came from Keith.

Keith HousumNorthcoast Research — Analyst

Okay, okay. Maybe I had

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

Yeah. I know it’s – overall it’s a great product for customers as well as for us. The adoption has been increased because our customers are being seeing how it works well in different regions and so they are rolling it out more, again it’s really at their discretion, not ours.

Keith HousumNorthcoast Research — Analyst

Got you, okay. I appreciate that. Craig, a little bit more on the guidance here, I can appreciate the wanting to be a little more conservative. So can you give us a little bit idea, perhaps if you – if the – If we come in at a 100% of TSA travel whereas the 97% to 98%, what’s the incremental difference in terms of revenue for CS.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

I think it’s hard to equate those two. I hate to go to 1% gets us this Keith as I think you well know and It’s not quite that prescriptive but if I – if I took it forward and I said, let’s say, I see the tolling and violations performance in the first quarter that I saw in the balance of year now in our original plan, our original guidance, we assumed a little lower than 97% to 98% for the first quarter. So I don’t think you quite be able to see what you saw for the first quarter, bringing it through to the back half, but it would be $5 million approaching $10 million potentially if we’re at that – at that 100% and – and I think what’s important about that that assumes that at the exact same mix that we saw and there’s kind of nothing else going on in the portfolio that moves the other way. So it’s not enough to bring it up, I would say, a factor of 10s of millions of dollars, but to the degree that we stay at exactly 100%, which by the way Keith that is where we closed the quarter. So from 1 to 331 that TSA throughput was exactly 100% as I drag that forward to the end of April, it’s still at exactly that 100%, so if we [Indecipherable] exactly that level, we could potentially see some – some upside of Commercial Service business.

Keith HousumNorthcoast Research — Analyst

Great, thank you. Appreciate it.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Sure.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your next question comes from Louie DiPalma from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

David, Craig and Mark, good afternoon.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Good afternoon. [multiple speaker]

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Was the impact from the New York City speed camera program shift from 16 hours to 24 hours. was that in-line with the prior expectations that you set.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

It is – it is so if – if you go back and think about total New York City revenue, we said that be down somewhere around $5 to $10 million total year-on-year the way it looks today that’s still what I see today, so – and the reason that it’s down year-over-year, Louie, was because we have the difference of having product sales in 2022, is that shifted to ARR here in 2023, the timing of those things which was offset partially by the 24/7 which went into place at the tail end of last year. So that’s a slightly longer answer to your simple question, yes it is and yes it is as expected.

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Great, thanks, Craig. And in general were speed camera net adds during the quarter strong even though that New York City contract has completed.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

I mean – are you just requesting outside of New York, you mean.

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Yeah, yep.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Yeah. I mean I think that everything was in-line with plan.

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Great and another one switching to the Commercial division. There been a lot of initiatives for the different racks to onboard electric vehicles, has that served as a benefit for- for your onboarding and title and registration businesses.

David RobertsChief Executive Officer

It does in as much as the fact that their electric doesn’t matter as much as if they’re inboard there, sort of, including new vehicles, which does impact our ability to both from a title and violations perspective – from its title and registration perspective. So yeah, that’s anytime they adding vehicle that’s good for us.

Louie DiPalmaWilliam Blair — Analyst

Great, that’s it from me. Thanks everyone.

Craig ContiChief Financial Officer

Thanks, Louie.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks].

Mark ZindlerVice President of Investor Relations

Thank you.

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