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Jabil inc. (JBL) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

JBL Earnings Call - Final Transcript

Jabil inc. (NYSE: JBL) Q4 2022 Earnings Call dated Sep. 27, 2022

Corporate Participants:

Adam Berry — Vice President, Investor Relations

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer


Jim Suva — Citigroup — Analyst

Ruplu Bhattacharya — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Matt Sheerin — Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc. — Analyst

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

Mark Delaney — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Shannon Cross — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Paul Chung — JP Morgan — Analyst

Melissa Fairbanks — Raymond James — Analyst


Adam Berry — Vice President, Investor Relations

Good morning and welcome to Jabil’s Fourth Quarter of Fiscal 2022 Earnings Call and Fifth Annual Investor Briefing. My name is Adam Berry, I’m Head of Investor Relations at Jabil and I represent the team here that’s pretty excited to share our 2022 results with you today, while also providing additional detail around our focus and outlook, as typical for our September call. In terms of agenda over the next 60 minutes or so, we aim to accomplish the following, discuss the trends underway within the end markets we serve, review our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 results, provide first quarter guidance, offer our fiscal 2023 outlook that includes enterprise level growth, while also remaining sensible and grounded given the realities of the dynamic global macro environment surrounding us today.

And finally, we’ll refresh our capital allocation and shareholder return policies. And most importantly, as our session unfolds, I hope that we’re able to provide you with further perspective on Jabil which I believe is uniquely positioned to grow and win in environment where supply chain and manufacturing capabilities have never been so important.

Joining me on today’s call is Mike Dastoor, our Chief Financial Officer and Mark Mondello, our Chairman and CEO. Two together account for over 50 years of Jabil experience and importantly when you think about the respective 10 years, you can’t help but also think about how they have guided table through periods of economic expansion and times where macro conditions were a bit more challenged. A 10-year that gives me great confidence as we move into fiscal 2023. So with that there is just one more housekeeping item before we begin, please note the following.

During today’s presentation, we will be making forward-looking statements, including among other things, those regarding the anticipated outlook for our business, such as our currently expected first quarter and fiscal year net revenue, earnings and cash flow. These statements are based on current expectations, forecast and assumptions involving risks and uncertainties that could cause actual outcomes and results to differ materially. An extensive list of these risks and uncertainties are identified in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended August 31st, 2021 and other filings. Jabil disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

As you can see on Slide 4, Jabil is vastly improved since we began these investor briefing sessions in 2018. Today Jabil is a $33.5 billion enterprise, with over 50 million square feet of manufacturing space across 100 plus sites. Our cash flow generation is strong, allowing us to invest in key end market growth, while also returning considerable cash to shareholders, which in fiscal 2022 was $744 million. And our roughly 260,000 people move with purpose and agility to meet customer needs within a wide-ranging composition at the end markets you see here.

Moving to our next slide, you can’t help but notice the global nature of our manufacturing footprint, which enables us to manufacture on a local level for a global set of customers. No matter whether it’s mobility products in Asia, healthcare products in North America or 5G infrastructure in Europe, we work with our customers to design and develop the most impactful manufacturing solutions, irrespective of region, with a focus on speed and urgency and a crisp sense of consistency from plant-to-plant.

This is critical because in today’s geopolitical climate, the ability to adjust and move with urgency has never been more important, as we help customers react to changes in tariffs, the rise of pandemics and natural disasters, energy shortages, conflict and many other unforeseen events. The Jabil of 2022 is also diversified and robust, thereby allowing us to meet challenges head on in one part of the business, while outperforming in others.

So just exactly how did we get here? Well, I’m here to tell you it was very purposeful. In the 2016 timeframe, our management team concluded that our model was missing an important characteristic if we were going to deliver upon our financial priorities consistently and sustainably. This important characteristic was diversification. So beginning in roughly 2017, we embarked on a journey to grow and diversify our business in areas such as 5G, cloud, healthcare, packaging, connected devices, semi capital equipment and electric vehicles.

Our intentional and deliberate focus on these emerging end markets combined with our already robust traditional businesses in print and retail, networking and storage and mobility, resulted in considerable enterprise level growth over the past four to five years as you can see here. And as a result, today no product or product family represents more than 5% of our business, creating an added level of comfort as demand fluctuates up and down, global taste change and technology constantly evolves.

Given our intentional focus on diversification, over the next couple of minutes, I’d like to take a moment and review some of the end markets that have fueled our growth, leading to the portfolio mix you see today. In automotive, we’re supporting a rapid shift in technology to electric vehicles, as evidenced by our 121% revenue growth since fiscal 2018. The growth has been driven by our best-in-class portfolio of customers in an addressable market that is growing by the day.

In EV, our manufacturing processes support the industrialization and production of complex technology for electric vehicles including battery management systems, inverters, converters, cables, offboard and onboard charging. And importantly, all of this increased complexity translates to increased content per vehicle for Jabil.

Since fiscal 2018, our 5G wireless and cloud business has nearly tripled in spite of the asset light nature of the cloud model as our design to dust value proposition resonates with existing and new customers. From secure supply chain design and manufacturing to rack integration and ultimately recycling, Jabil is winning in an expanding market.

In healthcare, our business has doubled since fiscal 2018 as the industry is experiencing tremendous change due to rising costs, aging populations and the demand for better healthcare in emerging markets. To address these trends, doctors, hospitals and patients are adopting new and more innovative ways to deliver better more personalized treatment. Consequently, healthcare OEMs are partnering with Jabil to navigate these changes.

Today we support customers in the development of solutions across medical devices, diagnostics, pharmaceutical delivery and orthopedics, from rapid prototyping, using additive manufacturing to high volume production, tooling, injection molding, robotics and rigorous test procedures for regulatory compliance, Jabil healthcare offers an unmatched suite of capabilities, all of which uniquely positions us to offer technology enabled solution to our customers.

In industrial and semi-cap, our business has grown 43% since fiscal 2018, driven mainly by the increasing need for green energy and with incredibly strong global demand for semiconductors. Within our industrial business, alternative energy generation and consumption are driving increased need for power conversion, power optimization, line balancing and storage at the endpoints of generation and consumption, including accelerated adoption of EVs, as well as on the grid.

Jabil has been investing in this space with reference designs and scaled manufacturing partnerships globally. On the semi-cap side of our business, semiconductor equipment has become increasingly complex and precise, driving new generations of equipment at large scale. And when you take a step back, you’ll again notice an incredibly well diverse set of business sectors in support of some of the largest most innovative and successful brands in the world today.

In each of these end markets, we’re incredibly focused on delivering consistent and reliable value from early in the product lifecycle like product innovation and design to more mature products where we offer planning, automation, supply chain management and of course manufacturing. At the end of the day, we build stuff here at Jabil and we do it really, really well.

In summary, so far today I’ve discussed the benefits of our global footprint, our focused and intentional growth in key end markets and the high level of consistency brought forth through diversification. Before turning the call over to Mike, I’ll try to tie this together through the use of real-life examples within the business to demonstrate the importance of diversification, while also walking through our Q4 results.

For the quarter, revenue was approximately $9 billion, ahead of our forecast, driven by much better than expected revenue in 5G wireless and cloud and networking and storage, as our ability to secure critical parts on higher end demand created meaningful revenue upside during the quarter. At the same time, healthcare and packaging connected devices, mobility, digital print and retail and industrial and semi-cap, all performed really well and consistent to our expectations.

All of this growth was slightly offset by component shortages in automotive, where supply chain challenges remain the most pronounced. Altogether, at the enterprise level, revenue grew by 22% year-over-year and 8% sequentially, reflecting continued strong demand, In Q4, our GAAP operating income was $409 million and our GAAP diluted earnings per share was $2.25.

Core operating income during the quarter was $447 million, an increase of 42% year-over-year, representing a core operating margin of 5%, up 80 basis points over the prior year, driven by the aforementioned strength in certain end markets, slightly offset by unanticipated costs associated with the power shortages in Chengdu during the month of August. Net interest expense in the quarter came in higher than expectations at $53 million, primarily associated with rising interest rates, while our tax rate came in better than expected by approximately 70 basis points resulting in core diluted earnings per share of $2.34, a 63% improvement over the prior year quarter and at the higher end of our range. Revenue for the DMS segment was $4.4 billion, an increase of 13% on a year-over-year basis, while core operating margin for the segment came in at 5.1%, slightly lower due to the temporary power shutdowns in China.

Revenue for our EMS segment came in at $4.6 billion, an increase of 32% on a year-over-year basis and well ahead of our plan from June. Core margin for the segment was 4.8%, up 50 basis points year-over-year, reflecting good operating leverage on strong growth. I believe the fourth quarter is the perfect illustration of our global network of factories adjusting, adapting and ultimately delivering for our customers and shareholders alike.

It feels as though the days of single end markets creating outsized issues for the company seem well off in the rear view mirror. And if you’re buying Jabil today, it’s not for a single product, but rather a tenured leadership team, strong manufacturing capabilities and the general assumption that technology is converging with our day-to-day lives. Thanks for your time today. It’s now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mike.

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Adam. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Jabil. Our business model has been intentionally structured, the aim of delivering core operating margin expansion, sustainable earnings growth and strong predictable cash flows. On top of this, our capital structure has been optimized to maximize our flexibility. This flexibility has enabled us to reshape our end market portfolio over the last several years, which has performed extremely well evidenced by a very strong FY 2022 results. I’m extremely pleased with the resiliency of our business, particularly considering the numerous challenges throughout the year with ongoing COVID waves, war in the Ukraine, global inflation, supply chain challenges and multiple energy shortages.

Despite these challenges, we delivered year-on-year growth in revenue of 14%, core operating income of 24% and core EPS of 36%, all while increasing core operating margin by 40 basis points over FY 2021. At a segment level for the year, our DMS revenue was $16.7 billion, an increase of 9% over the prior year, while core operating income for the segment was up 12% year-over-year. This resulted in core margin expanding 10 basis points to 4.9%. In EMS for the year, core operating income growth was incredibly strong, up 43% over the prior year. This resulted in core margin expanding an impressive 60 basis points over 21% on revenue of $16.7 billion. The strength in our EMS margins is reflective of our improving mix and strong leverage on 20% year-over-year revenue growth.

Turning now to our cash flows and balance sheet. In FY 2022 fourth quarter cash flow from operations was $1.65 billion. For the quarter, inventory days came in at 79 down 6 days sequentially on improved working capital management by the team. It’s worth noting that we offset a portion by higher inventory levels with inventory deposits from our customers which reside within the accrued expenses line item on the balance sheet.

Net of inventory deposits inventory days were 62 in Q4, down 8 days from Q3. While I’m pleased with the sequential decline in inventory days, the team continues to be fully focused on bringing this metric down further in FY 2023, as some of the supply chain constraints continue to ease. Net capital expenditures for the fiscal year were $841 million or 2.5% of net revenue. As a result, the strong Q4 cash flow generation, adjusted free cash flow for fiscal year came in higher than expected at approximately $810 million. And finally, we exited the quarter with total debt to core EBITDA levels of approximately 1.2 times and cash balances of $1.5 billion.

Next I would like to provide some clarity on our capex as shown in our cash flow statement. As a reminder, our customers routinely co-invest in plant, property and equipment with us as part of our ongoing business model. We often pay for these co-investments upfront, which are then later reimbursed to us by customers. Due to the high dollar value of these co-investments from our customers and how they are reflected on our cash flow statement, it is important net the two line items shown on the slide to reflect the true capex number and what we refer to as net capital expenditures. Our net capital expenditures for the fiscal year amounted to $841 million.

Moving now to our capital returns to shareholders on the next slide. During the fourth quarter, we repurchased 3.8 million shares bringing total shares repurchased in FY 2022 to 11.8 million shares of $696 million. Today, we have utilized $737 million of a $1 billion authorization granted in July of last year. This brings our cumulative shares repurchased since FY 2013 to approximately 102 million shares at an average price of $30, bringing our total returns to shareholders including repurchases and dividends to approximately $3.6 billion, reflective of our ongoing commitment to return capital to shareholders.

In summary, I’m extremely pleased the resiliency of our portfolio and sustainable momentum underway across the business, which has allowed us to deliver exceptionally strong results in fiscal 2022.

Moving to the next slide, where I’ll offer some insight about how we’re thinking about the business this year by end market. Across most of our end markets, demand has been extremely resilient, particularly in end markets that continue to benefit from strong secular tailwinds, many of which Adam highlighted a moment ago. We continue to expect these secular markets to expand in FY 2023. We also expect some consumer-centric end markets to underperform compared to the robust growth for the past 18 months. Unlike in past economic slowdowns where Jabil was highly concentrated in a particular product or end market today, it is critical to think of Jabil not as one company, but as a well-diversified accumulation of many end markets, a number of which we expect will continue to benefit from long-term secular tailwinds.

This product and end market diversification coupled with our global network of connected factories, global best in class supply chain management and deep domain expertise makes Jabil today markedly more resilient than we were five, 10 years ago as evidenced by our strong results in the last few years in the base of multiple significant global challenges.

Our FY 2023 guidance assumes a moderate economic slowdown and some moderation in growth which will impact certain end markets more than others. And now, like to walk you through each end market and describe how we’re thinking about our business in the coming year.

In our automotive and transportation end market, we expect the global transition to EVs to continue to drive robust growth within our automotive business despite choppy overall demand in global automotive purchases. Our views that EV adoption will continue to accelerate and gain a larger share of the auto market in FY 2023 regardless of the near-term global growth dynamics.

Jabil’s content per vehicle which can be as high as 3,000 or more dollars for a fully electric vehicle continues to increase, which provides further confidence in future growth. It’s also worth pointing out that project lifecycles in this end market run as high as seven or more years, providing a high level of stability and stickiness.

In healthcare today, the industry is undergoing tremendous change due to rising costs, aging populations and the demand for better healthcare in emerging markets. OEMs are seeking to address these dynamics by shifting the focus away from manufacturing towards improving patient outcomes. Jabil’s credibility in the healthcare space has positioned us well to take advantage of this outsourcing of manufacturing trend.

Should we enter an economic slowdown is our view that OEMs will in fact look to accelerate this outsourcing trend. A recession resistant end market with long product life cycles and accretive margins and stable cash flows is why healthcare continues to be such an important component of our diversified portfolio. Within connected devices, which I remind you is made up of a number of different customers, demand generally remains resilient, but given the consumer-centric nature of this end market as we moved from the pandemic fueled consumer spending to a more normalized environment, we feel it’s appropriate to take a conservative outlook and expect some moderation in growth.

And in mobility, demand signals continue to be strong as we navigate through our Q1 quarter. This quarter which has historically been associated with channel fill during the seasonal product launch is our highest revenue quarter. It’s worth noting, we have a long track record of operating successfully in this end market, which has been uniquely positioned within the portfolio, as we partner with the most innovative brand and market leader in this space to supply key capabilities that are critical and hard to replicate.

In summary, for DMS to me, the key takeaway this year is the considerable mix shift underway. In FY 2023, automotive and transportation and healthcare and packaging I expect people than half of our DMS business with estimated revenue growth of approximately $1.2 billion combined in FY 2023. Putting it all together for DMS in FY 2023, we’re expecting 20 basis points of margin expansion on low to mid-single digit revenue growth.

Turning now to EMS. In digital print and retail, we expect some moderation in consumer trend as people return to office to slightly offset growth in industrial trend and e-commerce and warehouse automation systems. Within retail both in customer-facing stores and in the warehouse technology shifting rapidly. As a result of building and ramping some of the most complex e-commerce and warehouse automation systems in the industry, which gives us confidence in our FY 2023 outlook.

Within our industrial business, we expect clean and smart energy infrastructure to drive growth for FY 2023. There are few major trends which drive growth in this space, but the overarching one is a green energy revolution. Government legislation such as recently enacted Inflation Reduction Act in the US with a sizable subsidies and incentives is already beginning to increase investment in this space. As a reminder, we play across the entire energy value chain from energy generation and solar panels, our conversion transmission, storage and metering to the management of power inside of homes and buildings. These projects have multiyear investment timelines independent of underlying short-term economic growth forecast, so we feel comfortable with the visibility we have in this space.

Within semicap, so far customers continue to match ahead with capex investments executing to their investment roadmaps with the recently introduced ChipPAC providing an additional catalyst in this space. I remind you, our strategy in this end market has been very thoughtful, due to the high cyclicality at the semicap market and we have been very conservative around how we have invested in this business and our forecast for FY 2023.

On the 5G side, infrastructure rollouts are going extremely well and demand remains high in the US and Europe. Rollouts are accelerating and our localized manufacturing capabilities are leading to market share gains in other geos such as India. We expect these rollouts to play out over the next several years regardless of near-term economic conditions. Therefore, we anticipate the 5G end market to continue to be resilient even in the face of moderate global slowdown.

And in the cloud space, our expectation is that the ongoing shift away from on-prem will continue to accelerate driving long-term growth in this space. If economic conditions weaken, our views of the cloud space should be a beneficiary as companies look to reduce costs in the moderating growth environment. It’s worth reminding everyone, we have deliberately structured our cloud business as a geo-centric, asset light service offering with very low levels of capex and working capital to ensure this business remains asset light, we routinely look for mutually beneficial arrangements with our customers to optimize our asset-light model.

With this in mind in FY 2023 approximately $500 million in components we procure and integrate with shift from the current purchase and resell model to a customer control consignment service model. This is an addition to the consignment of certain components we had announced in earlier years. This change will allow us to use our assets more efficiently in addition to improving margins. Adjusting for this shift, we expect continued robust unit growth in the cloud space in FY 2023.

And then finally, within the legacy networking and storage end markets, the value proposition that Jabil provides the best in class supply chain management, deep domain expertise and engineering capabilities and manufacturing in multiple geos is resonating with our customers and we expect market share already gain in the second half FY 2022 to drive growth in FY 2023 with high margins and robust cash flows.

With the current mix of business in EMS, we expect 20 basis points of core margin expansion in fiscal 2023 on low single-digit revenue growth. In summary, Jabil is not only well diversified, but also markedly more resilient due to our multi-year proactive efforts to diversify our business and align tomorrow’s trends. As a result we feel the outlook for our business is solid and expect demand to be resilient with year-over-year revenue growth at an enterprise level to be approximately 3% for FY 2023 in spite of an economic slowdown.

Moving to the next slide, for FY 2023, we expect core operating margins to improve by a conservative 20 basis points over the prior year mainly driven by end market growth and improved mix of business. We also expect the investments we made in areas such as IT, automation and factory digitization will drive improved optimization across our footprint, which will translate to higher margins in the future.

Turning now to our capex guidance for FY 2023. Net capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of $875 million or 2.5% of net revenue. This will come through a combination of both maintenance and strategic investments for future growth and efficiency gains. In FY 2023, we expect to continue to invest in targeted areas of our business with the bulk of our strategic growth capex aimed at the automotive EV space, along with the healthcare, 5G wireless, power generation and industrial end markets, generating multi returns in FY 2023 and beyond.

Our improved profitability, strong operational performance and disciplined investment has yielded significant cash flow over the last few years, which has allowed the company to strategically invest in high return areas of our business. Moving forward, we expect to continue generating strong cash flows. This is possible as a result of earnings expansion, along with our teams disciplined approach and ability to execute.

In FY 2023, we expect to generate adjusted free cash flow of more than $900 million. It is important to note that this estimate is based on our current expectations of a moderation in growth and continuing supply chain constraints in certain secular end markets. Paradoxically, a more severe recession is likely to improve cash flows due to the working capital nature of our business.

Moving to the next slide. A key aspect of delivering high returns and delivering long-term value to shareholders is ensuring our capital structure is appropriately balanced and optimized. Over the last few years, the team has done an outstanding job of building a solid and flexible debt and liquidity profile with current maturities appropriately staggered and an attractive interest rates. We ended FY 2022 with committed capacity under the global credit facilities of $3.8 billion. With this available capacity along with our year-end cash balance, Jabil ended the year with access to more than $5.3 billion of available liquidity, which we believe upholds ample flexibility. And importantly, we are fully committed to maintaining our investment grade credit profile.

Turning now to our capital allocation framework, in fiscal 2023 and beyond, we expect to generate significant free cash flow. Given this dynamic, it’s an appropriate time to reiterate our capital allocation priorities and at a high level how we plan to deploy our capital over the next two years. This morning included in our earnings filing, we announced a $1 billion share repurchase program authorization from our Board of Directors. With this incremental authorization, we have approximately $1.3 billion in total share repurchase authorization, reflecting our belief and confidence in Jabil’s ability to generate strong earnings and free cash flows.

Turning now to our first quarter guidance on the next slide. DMS segment revenue is expected to increase 2% on a year-over-year basis to $4.8 billion and EMS segment revenue is expected to be $0.5 billion and an increase of approximately 15% over the prior year. We expect total company revenue in the first quarter of fiscal 2023 to be in the range of $9 billion to $9.6 billion. Core operating income is estimated to be in the range of $415 million to $475 million.

GAAP operating income is expected to be in the range of $367 million to $427 million. Core diluted earnings per share is estimated to be in the range of $2 to $2.40. GAAP diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $1.65 to $2.05. Interest expense in the first quarter is estimated to be in the range of $36 million to $60 million and for FY 2023 to be approximately $230 million. For fiscal 2023, we will adopt an annual normalized tax rate for the competition for our core income tax provision to provide better consistency across reporting periods.

As a result, the tax rate on core earnings in the first quarter and for the fiscal year is estimated to be 19%. As we transition to my final slide, we expect the momentum underway across our business to continue even in a subdued economic environment. Today, our business serves a diverse blend of end markets in areas that provide confidence in future earnings and cash flows. We have deep domain expertise complemented by investments we made in capabilities, all of which gives us confidence in our ability to deliver 4.8% in core margins in FY 2023, along with $8.15 in core EPS and more than $900 million in free cash flow. And importantly, our balanced capital allocation framework approach is aligned and focused on driving long-term value creation to shareholders.

I’d like to thank you for your time today and thank you for your interest in Jabil. I’ll now turn the call over to Mark.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mike. Good morning. I appreciate everyone taking time to join our call today. I’ll begin by saying thanks to our team here at Jabil. I applaud the terrific care you give our customers, while also keeping our people safe. Your attitude is amazing and your stamina is incredible. Again, thank you.

Today marks our fifth annual investor session, a day where we share insights and lay out the groundwork for our business. Adam and Mike discussed our progress, which largely stems from the construct and pedigree of the company. I’ll expand on this and offer more thoughts, starting with our approach. At Jabil, each employee is critical to our success and everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.

As you know, we operate our business across a broad range of geographies. With team members that don’t look the same, don’t talk the same, that have physical limitations and neuro diversities. Team members that practice different religions and team members that have different sexual orientations. The diversity we have throughout the company simply makes us better, better as a team and better for our customers.

Second element of our approach pertains to ESG and sustainability. At Jabil, we aim to always do what’s right. This includes doing right for our planet and doing right for our communities. Our focus when it comes to ESG is grounded by our actions. An example is our goal of a 50% reduction in our greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. Another example that we have underway is directed towards mental health, a topic that impacts all of us either directly or indirectly.

Lastly, another action worth mentioning is our commitment to giving back. Our employees collectively are donating 1 million hours of their time during calendar 2022, although it is at the million hours per se, it’s the positive difference our Jabil team is making around the world. Their efforts are extraordinary and life changing.

Next I’d like to talk about our solutions and how they are enabled by our structure, our investments and our customers. You see our structure enables our collaboration which allows us to act with precision and speed. Our investments enable our execution which allows us to take the ordinary and apply the extraordinary and our customers enable our obsession, it allows us to solve the complex.

Moving to slide 41, you’ll see a pie chart which reflects our end markets. Our Portfolio, which provides the foundation in which we run our business today, a foundation that offers a high degree of resiliency for the corporation. Resiliency during times of macro and geopolitical disruptions and during more typical times when we’re faced with the demands put forth by our customers.

A real strength of our portfolio is the presence we have in essential end markets that include 5G, electric vehicles, personalized healthcare, cloud computing and clean energy. Markets that we believe will stimulate continued growth in earnings especially when combined with ongoing refinement and improvement of our more traditional businesses.

Let’s now take a look at how our business has performed over the last four to five years. The age sector shown here exhibit the diversified nature of our revenue, with each sector having a meaningful contribution to our overall financial results which is also captured on this slide are the end markets where we’ve seen good growth, growth that we think will continue on a relative basis, as we benefit from secular trends.

Please turn to Slide 43, where we’ll review our outlook. As Mike alluded to, for FY 2023, we plan to deliver revenue of $34.5 billion, with a core operating margin of 4.8%, a 20 basis point expansion when compared to FY 2022. This translates to $8.15 in core earnings per share, a growth of 7% year-on-year. In addition, we believe our free cash flow for FY 2023 will be in excess of $900 million.

Next, if we take our FY 2022 results and our FY 2023 guidance, step back a bit and look at the past few years, the data would suggest that what we’re doing is working. And as I’ve said previously, being well diversified in our business is a significant catalyst. By diversification for the sake of being diversified isn’t all that special. What is special is the composition of our diversification. And if we expand on the current composition of our business, we don’t anticipate any single product for any single product family to contribute more than 5% to 6% to our overall earnings in FY 2023 and that’s a good thing.

Moving on from our financials, I’d like to talk a bit about our purpose. At Jabil, we have a purpose that serves as our ultimate guidepost and as guidepost places an emphasis on carrying respective proper intentions and truth on us. These characteristics drive our behaviors in all we do. I’m proud of our team as they embrace our purpose and with their firm embrace comes exceptional conduct.

If we can now move to slide 46, where we can go over our path forward. As we think about fiscal 2023, we’ll certainly measure our success based on financial performance. We’ll also grade ourselves on keeping our people safe, exceptional customer care, how we interact with our suppliers and flyers who stood by us and supported us during these most recent difficult times. By the way, thanks to everyone listening today who partners with Jabil on the supply side of our business, we’re grateful. As our path forward it’s clear that our journey is based on our unique combination of approach, structure and experience. Our confident and our ability to execute, combined with our engineering expertise, our financial outlook, which was formed with rational assumptions and our continued commitment to returning capital to shareholders.

In closing, we believe Jabil is making the world just a lot of bit better, a little bit healthier and a little bit safer. To our entire Jabil team, thank you for making Jabil, Jabil and in doing what you do each day, I want all of you to be your true self without fear or recourse. I’m honored to serve such a reliable team.

With that, I’ll now turn the call back to Adam.

Adam Berry — Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks, Mark. There’s clearly a lot to like about Jabil today. To summarize, we began by describing how Jabil has undergone deep and sustainable improvements to its business model and we highlighted the solid foundation upon which the company sits today. And Mike walked you through our financial playbook, highlighted by the strength of our portfolio, fueled by long-term secular tailwinds. And importantly, Mike talked about our financial outlook against the challenged macroeconomic background.

To reiterate, today demand still remain strong and well ahead of supply. But as Mike noted conservatism has been baked into today’s model which anticipates good revenue growth, expanding margins and strong cash flows. And finally, to wrap up our session today, Mark offered insights into our unique approach, good solutions, portfolio and purpose. I want to thank you for your time today and we appreciate your interest in Jabil.

Operator, we’re now ready for Q&A.

Questions and Answers:


Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Jim Suva from Citi. Your line is now live.

Jim Suva — Citigroup — Analyst

Thank you and congratulations on the results and very strong outlook for both the quarter and the year, our thoughts of course go out to you and your loved ones and families as the weather looks like it’s giving quite negative there with the hurricane. In lieu of that, just wanted to know your outlook for the first quarter and full year, does it build in a little bit for hurricane? I know it’s hard to predict and I’m sure you’ve got a playbook for closing your factories and making sure importantly employees are safe and communicating with customers, but I assume that there is something built in there, is that true and I assume you’re probably going through procedures for the negative weather situation. Thank you so much.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the comments. Jim. Yeah, we — if I think about the last number of years starting with COVID and index in all the way through today, we’ve dealt with a lot of challenges, which by the way, to me, as I said in my prepared remarks makes our team I don’t know even more reliable and more terrific. When we think about power outages and COVID and COVID lingering and COVID shutdowns and geopolitical issues and the unfortunate continued war in Ukraine and inflation and rising costs and now we’re dealing with what looks to be a fairly nasty storm in the Tampa Bay area.

Specific to the storm, these things — these things ebb and flow by the hour, right now outlook doesn’t look so good. To put that in context, we’ve got about 250,000 plus people in the company around the world. We’ve got around 3,000 in the Tampa Bay area. So, first and foremost, right after we get off the call, we’ll go around again and check to be sure everybody is doing the right things and after the storm passes, we’ll be sure everybody is okay, much like we do in any geography. So, and we do have our defense and aerospace factory here and we’ll use standard Jabil protocols. We’ve closed the campus starting this afternoon and the campus will be closed through the end of the week. There’ll be no material impact whatsoever to Q1 our guide for 2023. And again, Jim, I appreciate the kind words.

Jim Suva — Citigroup — Analyst

Great. And then my quick follow up, it sounds like your consignment model and cloud business is actually progressing to be a more deeper relationship than say a couple of years ago. Is that true and does this lead to kind of increasingly more opportunities both on maybe less so revenues because it’s a net model, but more so profitability and more potential improvement in margins?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Maybe I could break that into two, first on the depth of the relationship. The depth of the relationship we have with our largest customer in the cloud business is substantial and we really appreciate that and we work really hard to earn that, but that relationship is in great shape. When I think about all of our relationships in the cloud, 5G wireless area, we’re really pleased with the areas in which we get to participate and feel pretty bullish about that through 2023 and hopefully going into 2024.

Specific to the cloud business, Jim, you alluded to the fact that I think we first started talking about our strategy that we had around a geo-centric configuration type of solution in the cloud space, largely around enhanced flexibility, agility and taking a lot of inventory and slack out of the supply chain. That’s proven to be a good assumption. I think we started talking about this back in 2018-2019 timeframe. We also — that’s at that same point in time early on, we crafted this business to be and Mike talked about this a bit what we kind of can talk about is asset light, so lots of [Indecipherable], lots of speed in the configuration moving very quickly low, low count of fixed assets on a relative basis to other parts of our business and then very efficient working capital management.

As part of that, we use this term consignment and I don’t want people to be confused about what consignment is, consignment is in any type of financial tool or anything we do to juice up margins per se. Consignment is simply around when we take a look at what we do in the supply chain, what values we add, there is simply some materials based with our relationship with the suppliers, as well as our customers where we add very little value.

And so based on that, we continue to evolve and craft the supply chain in our cloud business where we’re spending most of our time, adding great value. The impact of that and again, Mike talked about this in his prepared remarks is that for fiscal 2023, roughly give or take a bit about $500 million of material content will come out of the natural cloud business for 2023. And so the impact of that is, is if you look at the slides we presented, our cloud business going from FY 2022 to FY 2023 on a dollar basis I think shows a $200 million decline 2022 to 2023, I don’t remember the exact slides, but we’ve been through the numbers enough. So cloud, 5G wireless was about a $6.5 billion business in 2022, cloud, 5G wireless in 2023 will be a bit lower in that and a $6.3 billion, $6.4 billion range, but on a unit volume basis, volumes are up and growth is exactly where we thought it would be for 2023.

So again the dollars can appear a little bit distorted, but that is all about the fact that it’s a continuation of running the cloud business in an asset light manner.

Jim Suva — Citigroup — Analyst

Thank you and congratulations once again.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jim.


Thank you. Your next question is coming from Ruplu Bhattacharya from Bank of America. Your line is now live.Perhaps, your line is on mute, please pickup your handset.

Ruplu Bhattacharya — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Hi, it’s Ruplu. Thanks for taking my questions and I hope you guys are staying safe over there in Florida. Mark, I have a couple of questions for you. First on the EMS business, can you talk a little bit about the seasonality of that business. I mean there is so many different end markets there, you’re guiding for a strong growth. But just as we think about fiscal 2023, how should we think about seasonality in that business?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

How should you think about seasonality? I just don’t, Ruplu, I know you’re getting that right. I don’t — I just don’t think seasonality, I don’t think seasonality in the EMS space, it’s really about the evolving construct of the business. So what might appear on the surface is seasonality is just a continuance of reshaping that business, again as we focus on a good blend of margins and cash flows.

I guess for modeling purposes, I don’t want to be per script here, but I think with the guide that Mike provided for Q1 of 2023, I think our margins on the EMS side year-on-year, I would guess they will be up 20, 30 basis points. So if you take a look at EMS by and in of itself, you take a look at Q1 2022, you match that to Q1 2023. I would think the EMS margins will be up again 20, 30 basis points. And then if you kind of extrapolate out Q2, Q3, Q4, I would guess margins will be similar as they were in 2022. And I think the best part of the overall story with the EMS is in FY 2021, I think our EMS margins were sub 4%. I think in FY 2022 our EMS margins were 4.3% and I think in FY 2023, the EMS margins would be close to 4.5% to 4.6% somewhere in that range.


Thank you. Your next question today is coming from Matt Sheerin from Stifel. Your line is now live.

Matt Sheerin — Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc. — Analyst

Yes, thanks and good morning and thanks for all the good information so far. A couple of questions for me, one just in your outlook you’re guiding networking and storage up roughly 6% for next year, a little surprising and strong given concerns about IT spending slowdown. Is there — are you getting a positive forecast from customers as the supply constraints easing and is that giving you some more confidence in your guide, any color there would be great?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Matt. I don’t think it’s, I think we would agree with you on the demand side in overall general terms, I would say the — I would say the five, six points of upside is two things. A) there is still a decent amount of backlog that needs to be replenished and supply chain is getting better, albeit slowly, but moving in the right direction. And number two is, a lot of that is what I would kind of consider wonderful customers, but legacy customers nonetheless and we continue to pick up small pockets to share in the business. So I would say those are the main two components driving the growth from 2022 to 2023.

Matt Sheerin — Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc. — Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then just a couple of smaller questions, one just on your outlook. I don’t think you provided share count guide for Q1 or for 2023, does your 2023 guide contemplate lower shares with the buyback?

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Matt. Yes, it does. I would use less so for the year about $138 to $140 million and for Q1 in the 141, 142 range.

Matt Sheerin — Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc. — Analyst

Okay. And just lastly on the consignment shift with the cloud business that $500 million, I mean does that begin this quarter, so that’s reflected in the year-over-year growth rates in Q1?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I would say that our best estimate is if you notice, if you noticed as you guys build out your models, I think you’ll see — you’ll see what could appear to be maybe a little bit of distortion in the first half to second half. If you compare 2022 to 2023 specifically on the EMS side, that would suggest that the most of the consignment impact for the year will be towards the back half.

Matt Sheerin — Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc. — Analyst

Okay, great, thanks so much again.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Thank you.


Thank you. The next question is coming from Steven Fox from Fox Advisors, your line is now live.

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

Hi, good morning everyone. Two questions from me if I could. First of all, Mark, can you give us a sense of how your manufacturing footprint has changed over the say the past year and into how you’re planning to change it next year, not so much like where look things are located, but maybe capabilities and different regions. And if you could just maybe dial in a little bit on India and Southeast Asia ex-China. And then as a follow up, Mark, Mike, can you talk about the cash flows a little bit more, so the buybacks are now you have pretty huge percentage relative to your market cap sort of earmarked for buybacks, you’re saying 80% of cash flows and obviously there is a range of cash flow outcomes depending on what you do with inventories. Can we assume that 80% is solid, no matter what cash flows turn out or if you wind up with a lot more free cash flow because of inventories that maybe you would dial down the buyback? Thanks.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Let me comment on the last comment first and I know Michael, Michael add to it and correct me where I’m wrong for sure, but I think 80%, the 80% I think is from and I think that will include the buybacks plus our dividend over the next couple of years and Mike can expand on that. In terms of the footprint, Steve, there is no, there is no big changes to our footprint anticipated 2022 to 2023. We really like the footprint that we have. We think that the foot — our current footprint with the number of factories you have in the US and our ability to expand those factories, Mike, serve us well to the extent there is some reassuring with clean energy. We’ll see what happens with the Chips Act. We’ve been staying very close to that directly with our friends in DC.

There is a lot of details that need to be worked out there, but that’s one thing I could think about. But as we often say, you know, the nice thing about Jabil is if you take a look at our capabilities, you take a look at our scale, almost independent of geopolitical issues, there is going to be some bumpiness for sure on the macro. But over the next three to five years, there’s a lot of things that still need to be built and we build stuff and we do it awfully well and we can accommodate the needs of nearly any geography, either on the supply side or the demand side.

I would — I would, I think you asked about Southeast Asia and India. Over the last number of years, we’ve expanded into and continue to grow in Malaysia. We’ve ramped a wonderful campus in Vietnam, we’ll continue, Southeast Asia will certainly continue to be of interest to us by the way. We also have a wonderful footprint in Mainland China that we’re pleased with. And then lastly for India, I think I think India we’ve done — we’ve done what I would consider moderate, maybe even modest on a relative basis, investments in India around the Mumbai area and Pune and that campus continues to scale. If I had the wave of magic one and kind of guess what things might look like in India, say in FY 2024 or 2025, my guess would be our footprint in India will be greater in fiscal 2024 and 2025 than it is today.

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

And Steve, on your, the buyback question, if you look at what we’ve done in FY 2022, we repurchased almost 700 million of our shares. We’ll continue to be well balanced in our approach and opportunistic at the same time. We have an additional authorization of another $1 billion, bringing our total authorization to almost $1.3 billion. If you look at, if you look at the end markets that we play in the secular tailwinds that we continue to see our margin accretion, our EPS, cash flow accretion all leads me to think that we’re highly under valued and we feel buybacks is the best way to tackle that issue.

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

Great. All that super helpful and of course wishing the best for everybody in the Tampa area. Thank you.


Thank you. Next question is coming from Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.

Mark Delaney — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Yeah, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions and let me add my thoughts for everyone in Florida. The company’s fiscal 2023 guidance assumes a slowdown in certain end markets, even though, as I understand it, demand is generally strong. So we could double click on that a bit and better understand, are there end markets where the company has seen signs of macro related slowness as you start fiscal 2023 or is it really related to your assumptions about what may materialize based on your history with the business?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, this is ever changing and we’ll see — we’ll see what the next 60, 90, 120 days hold between monetary policy and everything else. I would say as we sit today, Mark, the only area that we’re seeing distinct decline in demand is around connected devices and consumer goods. Other than that everything is either flat to up, I spoke about the 5G cloud, again unit volumes are up. So of the eight sectors that we talk about in our business the one that’s down based on, based on demand or our belief of what’s going to happen in demand is in the area of consumer products in connected devices.

Mark Delaney — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

That’s helpful, thanks. On supply chain, you said it’s getting somewhat better, but still issues, are the issues semiconductor supply demand or are there other supply chain constraints that the company is dealing with and can you just elaborate a little bit more on how you see that playing out over the course of fiscal 2023?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I’d say, if we go back one year ago say nine to 12 months ago, we had tremendous challenges more broad based across the supply chain as we sit today, we still have pockets of challenges. I’d say the biggest challenges we have are around legacy semiconductors and probably the biggest, the biggest friction points continue to be around the EV space and the healthcare space. But on a relative basis, what we said the last number of calls is, our Jabil team is doing a wonderful job in securing parts relative to others.

So we’ll continue to secure the parts. The nice thing about — the nice thing about how we look to forecast the business, whether it’s on an annual basis like today where we go a degree deeper, it’s on our quarterly calls with our systems, our IT systems, how everything is linked together in terms of our factories, it really allows us real time to understand the puts and the takes of the business from the bottoms-up, so we start every single session with input and data from the factories, as well as the customers.

So I think we’ve contemplated all of the supply chain issues that are at hand at the moment as we offer the outlook for 2023.

Mark Delaney — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

If I could sneak one last question in that will be mentioned electricity costs going higher in China although I think unfortunately they are also higher in Europe, maybe you could remind us to what extent those are typically part of the cost structure and are you expecting you can pass on higher electricity costs in fiscal 2023 or is that maybe a headwind you baked into the guidance. Thank you and congratulations on the good results.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So I think, I think things are very different, maybe they’re both going to be rising, you talked about China, again, we saw some power outages there in the fourth quarter. We baked in some conservatism there for 2023, although it’s modest. In terms of Europe, our two big revenue generators are Poland and Hungary. We’ve taken a hard look at and kind of done a deep dive in the construct of Poland and Hungary generate their power. We think the impact to us through the winter months in Europe will be modest as well.

And I would just say that if I, if I just kind of wrap that up into Jabil’s more global footprint, we have seen and will continue to see rising costs in various areas of our business and we handle that differently with every single customer depending on the relationship, the terms and the overall economics. The good news is, I think we’ve given appropriate, if not deep consideration to all of that and we’re still bringing forward an outlook for 2023 that takes margins up 20 basis points to 4.8%.


Thank you. Next question is coming from Shannon Cross from Credit Suisse. Your line is now live.

Shannon Cross — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Thank you very much. I was wondering sort of big picture, as you talk to your customers, Industry 4.0, robotics, 3D printing, AI, ML all of the technology that your people are bringing to bear with regard to manufacturing. I’m wondering how much of that is part of a discussion with your customers both from sort of a competitive advantage standpoint, as well as the ability to increase margins over time? And as I look at your margin profile, obviously, it’s improving, but I’m wondering how much of this is increased automation and things you can do yourself versus mix. And then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I like your question because whether it’s — whether it’s industry 3.0 or 4.0, I’m not quite sure, but at Jabil it’s kind of — it’s kind of 1.0. It’s right at the heart of what we do. Our business is complicated at times, our strategy is really straightforward. Our strategy gets driven by each of the individual sectors because that’s where all the domain expertise lies. And then at an enterprise level, we build stuff and the better we build stuff, the more flexible we are in building stuff, the better our geography is in serving customers, the better engineering is the more market share gains we’ll continue to capture as we move forward. And Shannon, a big part of that is, again, I think if we’re not the largest, we’re one of the largest large scale manufacturing services company in the world and a huge, huge amount of that is always our opex and our capex investments and we just believe deeply in investing in the business because again we don’t, we don’t want to be making decisions for today that that aren’t great decisions long term and those investments are great decisions long term.

So whether it’s AR VR, whether it’s artificial intelligence, whether it’s additional data analytics, whether it’s robotics, automation, by the way we make significant investments in those areas. I would guess that independent of our customers between our overall advancement in IT, data analytics, robotics, all of that stuff, our opex investments are probably $400 million to $500 million a year and we think those are terrific investments for the company and will be very material as we move forward and run this company north of 5% at a very large scale.

Shannon Cross — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Thank you. And I guess this is kind of derivative question, but currency, I’m wondering how that comes into the conversations with customers in terms of where you’re manufacturing versus some of the currency moves or if it is topic of discussion at all given where everything has moved in the last, say, six months, there have been some pretty aggressive currency swing. So I’m just wondering if that comes out in any of your discussions? Thanks.

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Sure, I’ll answer that. I think if you look at how we, how we structure our pricing etc., the revenue is mainly predominantly US dollar base, bill of material that we buy from suppliers is mainly predominantly US dollar base. The value add that you get, the local labor the local costs, yes those fluctuate. We do have true-up mechanisms with our customers to reprice if there is a significant move. And we also hedge our FX on the value-add portion as well.

So overall, FX is not something I lose sleep over.

Shannon Cross — Credit Suisse — Analyst

Okay, thank you.


Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Paul Chung from JP Morgan. Your line is now live.

Paul Chung — JP Morgan — Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my question. So just one follow-ups on cap allocation, very strong free cash flow here to end the year. And you know pretty nice outlook here kind of approaching 1 billion annually. So why not increase the authorization higher? And then secondly, on the kind of acquisitions front, where should we expect the firm to be a little bit more active here, should we expect kind of discontinued in-house investments for customers and reimbursement or work in the firm be a little bit more active given some depressed private valuations here?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the questions, Paul, just on the buybacks, I think your comment was one be more aggressive, I think we’re being very aggressive. If we just take a look at cash flows, we don’t, we delivered in 2022 and the level of buyback, the level of buybacks and Mike talked about this little of buybacks in 2022 is north of $700 million and free cash flow is of $800 million. I consider that extremely aggressive, by the way, that doesn’t include our dividend.

If I think about 2023 and 2024, Mike talked about the fact that we got authorization for an extra $1 billion. We add that to the unused portion of the prior authorization that puts in play about $1.3 billion. If I think about our free cash flow this year being 900 and we’re saying nothing about fiscal 2024, but hypothetically let’s say it was around $1 billion, you’ve got $1.9 billion in free cash flow and now you’re talking about a total authorization of $1.3 billion plus another $100 million plus for dividend, you’re talking about us returning a $1.4 billion or give or take against free cash flows of $1.9 billion. So I think that’s appropriate and we could debate whether or not that’s aggressive enough, but I think it’s a very nice return of capital directly to shareholders.

In terms of, in terms of M&A, we think, so again, I think one of the charm, the real charming part being in our business with all the complexities is, is it’s a big world out there and I said earlier, there is lots and lots and lots of things that need to be built and the world is not going to become virtual completely and the world is not going to become kind of how the graphic, it’s like there’s hard things we talk internally, sometimes a big part of the way we run the business is digital with ones and zeros, but the output of that is based in Adams. I mean they’re hard tangible things we build and again the market is massive.

So I just — we will continue to do small acquisitions largely around acquiring engineering talent and technical capabilities, but the best use of our capital, A) is exactly what you alluded to is at these valuations returning capital to shareholders via dividends and buyback. And then also the best use of our cash is both capex and opex investments again with an eye on continuing to pick up share, continuing to position us in a very dominant portion of the overall supply chain. And then also with an eye on getting the margins for the company over 5% on a sustainable basis.

Paul Chung — JP Morgan — Analyst

Thank you. And then just a quick follow-up on component inflationary, are you starting to see kind of more normalized prices in the market today. And then if we start to see more kind of deflationary environment on components, how do we think about the impact on margins and cash flows. Thank you.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I would say to — the first part of your question is the — the overall, if I take a look at our, all of our bill of materials which are in the 10s of thousands and extrapolate this comment overall of it, the supply chain is very mixed. There is some part of the supply chain, it’s really more normalized and there is some part of the supply chain remaining that’s inflationary. I think that continues to move in the direction of over time of being more normalized.

And in terms of — in terms of the bill of materials becoming deflationary, I don’t think we have to worry about that so much in 2023. We’ll see what happens in the first half of 2024, but we’ve been doing this a long time. And if you just kind of think about the 55 years that Jabil has been in business and maybe focus on the last 30, it’s just been a continuous sign wave up, down, up, down, up down in terms of our variable costs or fixed costs in cost of bill of material.

I think we’ll continue to navigate — we’ll continue to navigate that quite well with customers and I don’t, I don’t, I don’t envision I certainly don’t envision we wouldn’t have guided the 4.8% this year if we thought there was a risk to that. And I think this morning along I’ve mentioned the idea of running the company at 5% with I think purpose full consideration of what might happen to the materials market, the component market, our bill of materials, we feel pretty confident of driving the margins to 5%.

Paul Chung — JP Morgan — Analyst

Great, thank you.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, you’re welcome.


Thank you. Next question today is coming from Melissa Fairbanks from Raymond James, your line is now live.

Melissa Fairbanks — Raymond James — Analyst

Great, thanks very much guys. I’m hunkering down to South of view, it looks like they’re calling for a direct hit here now, so a quite an eventful day for all of us, I guess. You mentioned supply is starting to ease. Can you share if that’s more due to just Jabil sourcing just improved efficiency on your part or are you seeing it free up more generally. And then I’ve got a follow-up to that.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, Melissa, first off, keep yourself safe and I don’t think today is going to be all that exciting, but certainly starting at noon tomorrow, I think things will get quite interesting, so please keep safe. In terms of, in terms of the overall bill of material, I think some of it is our scale and our leverage and I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we just have a wonderful network of suppliers. So I think that’s part of it.

I think the other part of it is, with the current monetary policies and things going around the world, I think in general and this is now becoming, maybe a little bit more and I use the word, little bit, a little bit more of the rule versus the exception. But I think demand in general on a macro basis will start to soften a bit. I mentioned earlier that we’re seeing it largely around consumer product connected devices, but I think demand will start to soften a bit and I think that’s going to help with overall supply chain both continuity and supply as we move forward in the next 9, 12, 18 months.

Melissa Fairbanks — Raymond James — Analyst

Okay, great. And then you mentioned inventories would be worked down over time, what would be your ideal inventory target, is there excess inventory that you’re holding that you’re specifically looking to destock?

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So there is inventories are holding today that yes, I love your term, we would like to destock those and we’re going to work very hard to destock some of these things in FY 2023. They were put there with purpose, they are there to support the customers, the old adage of the golden screw deal we’ve been dealing with that for a long, long time. We think that starts to normalize the back half of 2023. And so I would guess, we’re very pleased by the way with the progress that we’ve made in terms of days of inventory reduction as we got to the back half of fiscal 2022. And I would guess we’ll see a similar trajectory as we move through 2023 on a relative basis.

So I’d be really disappointed if we’re sitting here, let’s say, in the second half of 2023 and our overall inventory levels are not down in a material way.

Michael Dastoor — Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

And Melissa just as a reminder, most of our inventory is actually raw materials and WIP, there is very little finished goods. So we don’t have a finished good problem any such like. It’s the raw materials and WIP, as Mark said, we actually bring it in for our customers after they place the PO, so they’re legally contractually, obligated with that inventory as well. So it’s just a matter of the golden screw coming through at our manufacturing, churning our products. It’s a — it’s a relatively different inventory situation and perhaps retailers or any other type of market.

Melissa Fairbanks — Raymond James — Analyst

Sure. Perfect. Thanks very much. That’s all from me. Stay safe guys.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

You too Melissa, thank you.


Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up from Ruplu Bhattacharya from Bank of America. Your line is now live.

Ruplu Bhattacharya — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking the follow-up and Mark, thanks for all the details you gave so far. I wanted to ask you a question on risk management in the DMS segment, if we look at mobility revenues right, so fiscal 2022 came in a little bit lower than what you had expected $100 million and you’re guiding another $100 million lower for fiscal 2023, but now connected devices as you said is a consumer-facing end market and you’re guiding that down 9%. So when I look at these two things mobility and connected devices, they’re about 47% of the fiscal 2023 guide for DMS. In case these markets are weaker than what you expect, how would your playbook change, are there areas of investment that you would switch to other areas and overall do you think that there is enough strength in the automotive and healthcare segments that though that strength can balance any weakness in these other two segments. So just your thoughts on if there is incremental weakness in these two end markets mobility and connected devices, how your playbook changes? Thanks.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Just a general comment that I don’t think has much to do with your question. I think, I think the one area I’d look at is in overall DMS, we continue to see awfully good growth in EVs, automotive and transport and we see good, stable growing business in healthcare and packaging. So I’m not sure on your math, on connected devices and mobility being 47% other than, we give it to you on the chart. I’m just thinking about as we move into 2024, 2025 from an overall risk standpoint, I think we’re going to continue to see good trajectory of growth in automotive, transport, healthcare, packaging as we move beyond 2023, that’s point number one.

Point number two is, I think trying to trying to put together, at least in regards to Jabil specific, trying to put together connected devices with mobility, I wouldn’t do that because there is different elements of those businesses beyond just raw demand that are material to Jabil in terms of our realized demand versus the overall marketplace. And last point to your question, I think on connected devices and mobility in general as we sit today the way in which we run both of those businesses and the way in which we have agreed commercial terms of the customers, puts us in a situation where we feel pretty good in terms of risk management to both areas of the business.

Ruplu Bhattacharya — Bank of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Okay, thanks for the detail. Appreciate it.

Mark Mondello — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I’m sorry, I think you got cut off earlier apologize for that.


Thank you. We have reached end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the floor back over for any further or closing comments.

Adam Berry — Vice President, Investor Relations

Our call has concluded. Thank you for your interest in Jabil.


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