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Corning Inc (GLW) Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

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Corning Inc  (NYSE: GLW) Q4 2020 earnings call dated Jan. 27, 2021

Corporate Participants:

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Tim Long — Barclays — Analyst

Shannon Cross — Cross Research — Analyst

Wamsi Mohan — Bank of America — Analyst

Asiya Merchant — Citigroup — Analyst

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Joseph Cardoso — J.P. Morgan — Analyst

John Roberts — UBS — Analyst

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

Rod Hall — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Presentation:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Corning, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]

I would now like to hand the conference to your speaker today, Ann Nicholson, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead ma’am.

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you and good morning, and welcome to Corning’s quarter four 2020 earnings call. With me today are Wendell Weeks, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Tony Tripeny, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Jeff Evenson, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategy Officer.

I would like to remind you that today’s remarks contain forward-looking statements that fall within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. These factors are detailed in the Company’s financial reports. You should also note that we’ll be discussing our consolidated results using core performance measures unless we specifically indicate our comments relate to GAAP data. Our core performance measures are non-GAAP measures used by management to analyze the business.

For the fourth quarter, the largest difference between our GAAP and core results stemmed from restructuring charges, which are primarily non-cash as well as non-cash mark-to-market losses associated with the Company’s currency hedging contracts. With respect to mark-to-market adjustments, GAAP accounting requires earnings translation hedge contracts and foreign debt settling in future periods to be mark-to-market and recorded a current value at the end of each quarter, even though these contracts will not be settled in the current quarter, for us, this reduced GAAP earnings in Q4 by $63 million. To be clear, this mark-to-market accounting has no impact on our cash flow.

Our currency hedges protect us economically from foreign exchange rate fluctuations and provide higher certainty for our earnings and cash flow, our ability to invest for growth and our future shareholder distributions. Our non-GAAP or core results provide additional transparency into operations by using a constant currency rate aligned with the economics of our underlying transactions.

We’re very pleased with our hedging program and the economic certainty it provides. We’ve received $1.7 billion in cash under our hedge contracts since their inception more than five years ago. A reconciliation of core results to the comparable GAAP value can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website at corning.com. You may also access core results on our website with downloadable financials in the interactive analyst center. Supporting slides are being shown live on our webcast and we encourage you to follow along, and you can download them from our website.

And now I’ll turn the call over to Wendell.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Ann, and good morning, everyone. Today, we reported an outstanding finish to the year. Each of our segments grew sales and profits year-over-year, and we continue to progress our strategic initiatives.

For the fourth quarter, sales were $3.3 billion, up 11% sequentially and 17% year-over-year. Our operating margin expanded 500 basis points year-over-year to 19.4%. Operating income grew 18% sequentially and 58% year-over-year. EPS of $0.52 was up 21% sequentially and 13% year-over-year. We generated $464 million of free cash flow in the fourth quarter, $948 million for the full year, and we finished the year with $2.7 billion in cash on our balance sheet.

It goes without saying, 2020 was an incredibly difficult year. We joined the rest of the world to confront the pandemic, economic uncertainty and social unrest. Throughout the year, we focused on our customers and executed on strategic priorities while protecting our people. For more perspective on our performance, I’ll share three observations.

First, we demonstrated our ability to adapt rapidly and remain resilient in the face of uncertainty. Second, our more Corning content strategy clearly contributed to our growth and our performance against our end markets. And finally, throughout this difficult period, we’re embracing the opportunity to make a difference, wherever we are with what we had to contribute.

Now I’ll expand my first observation. Our decisive actions and strong operational execution have resulted in continued leadership in the capabilities that make Corning distinctive. Like many companies, we’re focused on bolstering our financial strength, reducing production levels and operating cost, carefully managing inventory, reducing capital expenditures and pausing share buybacks. However, it’s not about what we cut, but what we kept. While we adjusted production, we didn’t reduce capacity, keeping us positioned to meet increasing demand when the economy improved. We continue to make strategic investments and advance major innovations with our customers, to capture the growth playing out across our market access platforms. And we developed multi-faceted programs to protect our talent and preserve our capabilities.

Our first half actions generated significant cost savings in the second half of the year. And as the economy started showing signs of green shoots, we effectively adjusted our operations, keeping pace as demand started to recover in many of the markets we serve. Our results tell the story. Our sales were down 12% in the first half as most economies were impacted by pandemic related lockdowns. But in the second half, we improved sales 24% over the first, while growing operating income, 122%, returning to year-over-year growth and generating very strong free cash flow. For the year, we generated almost $1 billion of free cash flow, and our balance sheet remains very strong. We expect this strong momentum to continue heading into 2021. We will continue to adapt and focus on execution as we have proven that our approach is working.

Turning to my second observation. In all of the industries we serve, important market trends continue to offer new challenges that Corning is just uniquely qualified to address and new opportunities to integrate more Corning content into our customers’ products. In this difficult year, we have proven that this is an especially powerful value creation lever. We aren’t relying exclusively on people buying more stuff. We’re putting more Corning into the products that people are already buying. In the fourth quarter, this strategy paid off as we grew sales year-over-year in every one of our businesses. At the top were specialty materials, with sales up 20% year-over-year and environmental technologies up 19% year-over-year, both significantly outperforming their end markets.

Last quarter, I described our innovations in mobile consumer electronics, looking at how we’re investing to create additional revenue streams and capture content opportunities. Today, I’ll focus on our automotive market access platform. The auto industry is undergoing major disruptions. Automakers are designing cleaner and safer vehicles, while featuring technology that provides immersive experiences. We’re uniquely suited to address these trends. And for us, the opportunity is large in the range of $100 per car in Corning content. We are collaborating with more OEMs and we’re operating more solutions to help move the industry forward. Let’s look at two of our biggest successes right now.

Starting with our Automotive Glass Solutions business. We’re building strong momentum. Our advantaged solutions are enabling the very rapid shift towards in-vehicle displays that are interactive, that are integrated and shaped. We are collaborating with industry leaders across the auto ecosystem, including Visteon, LGE, BOE and VIA optronics to accelerate the adoption of our patented 3D ColdForm Technology which enables lower cost, shaped auto interiors. Our large-scale facility in Hefei, China is now fully operational and servicing our growing demand. And we continue to see strong adoption of our technology by auto OEMs. Our recent proof point is the new Mercedes-Benz Hyperscreen dashboard display, which features a Gorilla Glass cover nearly five feet wide.

Similarly, environmental technologies in a year when a global pandemic temporarily shut down OEM production, our proprietary gasoline particulate filter business still grew sales year-over-year. When we introduced EPS, we said our technology increased our content opportunity per car by three to four times. Like most of our innovations, it started with the customer challenge. Europe and China are addressing fine particulate pollution with new emissions regulations. We applied our expertise in ceramic science with our advanced manufacturing capabilities in extrusion to rapidly develop filters that efficiently trap ion particulates. And today, we’re effectively helping automakers reduce these harmful emissions, meet new regulations and produce some of the cleanest gasoline vehicles you can buy.

Demand for our GPF has grown quickly, and with our market leading product, we continue to win the majority of platforms awarded to date. We’re well on our way to building a $0.5 billion business. We’re actually ahead of schedule and the content opportunity continues to grow. We expect our GPF technology to migrate beyond Europe and China as other regions focus on improving air quality. And many new car models will soon be required to get even closer to near zero particulate emissions. In response, we recently introduced our next generation GPF, featuring enhanced filtration capabilities. They’re launching in upcoming models as automakers prepare for the next wave of regulations. Across our markets, we see a similar content story playing out as we respond to key industry challenges with more Corning solutions.

Let me share some other accomplishments across our market access platforms. In life sciences, pandemic-related demand has highlighted our strength in the industry. And we achieved major milestones towards building a significant Valor Glass franchise in 2020. At the start of the year, we entered a long-term supply agreement to provide Valor Glass vials for a portion of the currently marketed Pfizer drug products. Soon after, we were awarded $204 million in funding from the US government to substantially expand domestic manufacturing capacity for Valor vials. Today, we are supplying Valor Glass to several leading COVID vaccine manufacturers. We produce millions of Valor vials and shipped enough for more than 100 million doses supporting multiple vaccine developers.

In our life sciences segment, the global health fight is driving strong demand for our consumable products. We are supporting the development of treatments and vaccines, as well as mass testing efforts. We received $15 million from the US government to expand domestic capacity for robotic pipette tips which are used for COVID diagnostic testing. BioNTech recently recognized our contribution to their successful COVID vaccine development.

Turning to Mobile Consumer Electronics. We launched the toughest Gorilla Glass yet, Victus, and it’s already featured on six Samsung devices. Corning also invented the world’s first transparent color-free glassceramic, which is featured on the front cover of the latest iPhone. Apple and Corning partnered to develop and scale manufacturing of Ceramic Shield. It offers unparalleled durability and toughness. I noted that specialty materials sales were up 20% year-over-year in quarter four. They were up 18% for the full year in a smartphone market that declined 7%.

In Optical Communications, we returned to growth and we expect this growth to continue as customers increase spending to support growing bandwidth requirements. In 2020, we introduced new and innovative solutions that help speed the deployment of 5G. We launched our outdoor 5G-ready connectivity solutions, featuring compact, easy-to-install terminals that can be deployed in any conceivable architecture. Operators can actually save up to $500 per terminal location, dramatically lowering installation costs and speeding up deployment.

We’re also collaborating with Verizon to enable 5G millimeter wave indoor deployments for their enterprise customers. We’re also working with Qualcomm Technologies to deliver indoor networks in 5G-ready, easy to install and affordable. And we’re collaborating with EnerSys to simplify the delivery of fiber and electrical power to small-cell wireless sites.

Turning to Display. Retail demand for TV and IT products remains strong. Demand for large-size TVs continues to grow. 75-inch sets were up more than 60% for the full year. Large TVs are most efficiently made on Gen 10.5 fabs. Corning is well positioned to capture that growth with its Gen 10.5 plants in China, including the two newest Gen 10.5 facilities in Wuhan and Guangzhou, which are now expanding production to meet customer demand. Ramping these sites has been no small feat in the midst of a pandemic. We are very proud of our innovative and dedicated expert engineering teams that rose to a host of unprecedented challenges to start-up tanks in both facilities.

Looking ahead, Corning’s long-term growth drivers and content opportunities are strong in each of our markets. And we believe some secular trends could accelerate as consumer lifestyles continue to change in the aftermath of the health crisis. And that leads to my third observation.

We’re living through the kind of moment that tends to bring true character to light. At Corning, our values are evident in our actions. We’ve unleashed our capabilities to help combat the virus, and we’re proud to be creating life-changing technologies that contribute to keeping people safe and help society address the challenges of the pandemic. We also recognize in these unprecedented times that we have the opportunity to share resources and leadership on a range of important issues. We’ve launched racial and social equality programs, and our Unity campaigns support vital human services and emergency relief in our communities around the world.

In conclusion, on all fronts, Corning is executing well. We’re delivering outstanding results and making important progress across our strategic priorities. I am confident that we are entering the year with solid momentum and we expect to grow in 2021. Our more Corning strategy will continue to drive outperformance across the diverse industries that we serve. We’re not just counting our consumers buying more cars, TVs or smartphones to grow. And I’m excited about how we’re bringing our capabilities to bear in optical and life sciences as operators expand their networks and we continue to support vital drug and vaccine development.

Now, I will turn the call over to Tony so that he can provide additional insight on our results and expectations.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Wendell, and good morning, everyone. We feel good about our fourth quarter results. On a year-over-year basis, we grew sales and earnings. We expect to grow again in the first quarter, and we expect to grow for the full year, driven by improving markets and our more Corning strategy. We are building a bigger, stronger company that deliver sustainable results, while remaining agile in our ability to respond to changing market factors.

Now let me walk you through our fourth quarter performance. In the fourth quarter, we grew sales 11% sequentially and 17% year-over-year to $3.3 billion, exceeding expectations. Excluding the consolidation of Hemlock Semiconductor, sales grew 11% year-over-year, with every segment growing sales and net income. Specialty Materials and Environmental Technologies delivered particularly strong year-over-year sales growth, up 20% and 19% respectively, both outperforming their underlying markets.

Optical Communications returned to year-over-year growth and we expect that growth to continue. Our operating margin was 19.4%, that is an improvement of 500 basis points on a year-over-year basis. We grew operating income 18% sequentially and 58% year-over-year. EPS of $0.52 was up 21% sequentially and 13% year-over-year. We generated $464 million of free cash flow in the quarter. Cumulative free cash flow for the full year was $948 million. We ended the year with a cash balance of $2.7 billion. We entered 2021 in an excellent financial position.

Now let’s review the business segments. In Display Technologies, fourth quarter sales were $841 million, up 2% sequentially and 6% year-over-year, and net income was $217 million, up 11% sequentially and 21% year-over-year. Retail demand for TV and IT products remains strong during the promotional season in Q4. Display’s full year sales were $3.2 billion and net income was $717 million. Our full year price declines in 2020 were mid-single digits. The glass market and our glass volume were up mid-single digits for the year.

The retail market was more robust than the industry — than the industry expected, resulting in panel supply being tight for the second half of 2020. Panel makers ran at high utilizations and the industry drew down inventory to satisfy demand. These dynamics also resulted in glass supply being tight and more recently in shortage due to a power outage at our competitors glass plant.

Now let’s look at 2021. We expect the TV and IT retail markets to remain strong. We remain confident that large size TVs will continue to grow and we are well positioned to capture that growth with Gen 10.5, which is the most efficient Gen size for large TV manufacturing. We expect the glass market to grow a mid-single-digit percentage in 2021. We expect glass supply to remain tight in the upcoming quarters.

As a result of these supply-demand dynamics, we are experiencing a very favorable pricing environment. We expect Q1 2021 glass prices to be flat with Q4 2020. This is significantly better than the sequential declines we’ve seen in any other first quarter over the last decade. Glass prices for some customers in some Gen sizes may actually see a sequential increase. We believe the following three factors will continue to drive the favorable pricing environment for the upcoming quarters.

First, we expect glass supply to continue to be tight. Second, our competitors continue to face profitability challenges at current pricing levels. And third, display glass manufacturing requires periodic investments in existing capacity to maintain operations. Glass prices must support acceptable returns on these investments.

In Optical Communications, fourth quarter sales were $976 million, up 8% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. Our year-over-year growth can be attributed to broad improvements in demand for both carrier and enterprise customers. Fourth quarter core net income of $141 million was up 127% year-over-year and 23% sequentially. The improvement was driven by the incremental volume and favorable cost performance. We have returned to growth in Optical Communications, and we expect that growth to continue. Bandwidth demand is increasing and users are demanding higher performance connections. We’re seeing positive statements from customers on increasing investments in their optical networks.

Our sales and order rates are picking up, and we’re ready to capture demand as it materializes. We are confident we will grow sales in Optical Communications for the year. We continue to monitor and evaluate market demand signals to determine the magnitude of growth and we’ll keep — we’ll continue to keep you updated as we go through the year.

In Environmental Technologies, fourth quarter sales were $445 million, up 19% year-over-year and 17% sequentially, ahead of expectations as markets continue to improve and GPF adoption continued in China. Net income was $93 million, up 45% year-over-year and 35% sequentially, driven by strong operational performance globally and successful ramping of additional GPF capacity in China.

For the full year, sales were $1.4 billion and our performance was better than the underlying market. Net income was $197 million. While our full year 2020 sales were certainly impacted by COVID-19, we are recovering faster than the market by increasing our content for both the automotive and diesel end markets. Despite severely challenged markets, we saw year-over growth in GPF sales. Strong GPF adoption continues in Europe and in China, where the China 6a regulation is being implemented nationwide this month. We are ahead of our original timeframe to build a $500 million GPF business.

Specialty Materials had an outstanding fourth quarter and full year. Q4 sales of $545 million were up 20% year-over-year. Full year sales were $1.9 billion, up 18% year-over-year, despite a 7% decline in the smartphone market, driven by strong demand for our premium cover materials and our other innovations. Net income was $423 million, up 40% from 2019 on higher sales volume and strong cost performance. The importance of computing and connectivity were amplified during the pandemic. Our new product innovations, including Ceramic Shield and Gorilla Glass Victus, as well as our EUV products in the semiconductor market were important contributors to our strong performance.

Now before I get to our Life Sciences results, I’d like to note something of great importance to us. Throughout the pandemic, our Life Sciences market access platform has applied its broad capabilities and full product portfolio to help the world combat the pandemic. From our traditionally research-focused consumables, to our vial production products, to our transport media, and of course, our Valor Glass, we’re playing a vital role in the development and supply of test kits and vaccines.

Now let’s look at our segment results. Life Sciences’ fourth quarter sales were $274 million, up 7% year-over-year and 23% sequentially, driven by strong demand for COVID-related products, including bio-production products used in clinical trials. Net income was $42 million, up 11% year-over-year and 50% sequentially.

In summary, we successfully navigated a very challenging year. We strengthened our balance sheet, established growth in the second half and generated free cash flow of $948 million for the year. As we look ahead, we have strong momentum coming into 2021 and expect year-over-year growth to accelerate in the first quarter. Specifically, we expect core sales of $3.0 billion to $3.2 billion compared to $2.5 billion in the first quarter last year, and EPS of $0.40 to $0.44, which is double last year’s first quarter EPS at the low end of the range. For the full year, we expect growth in sales and earnings, and we anticipate generating more free cash flow in 2021 than in 2020, and we will share more with you as the year progresses.

Let’s turn to our commitment to financial stewardship and prudent capital allocation. Our fundamental approach remains the same. We will continue to focus our portfolio and utilize our financial strength. We generate very strong operating cash flow and we expect that to continue going forward. We will continue to use our cash to grow, extend our leadership, and reward shareholders. Our first priority for our use of cash is to invest in our growth and extend our leadership. We do this through RD&E investments, capital spending and strategic M&A. Our next priority is to return excess cash to shareholders in the form of dividends and opportunistic share repurchases.

In 2021, we expect capex similar to 2020, as we have capacity in place to meet higher sales. Now, we’ll invest more if we require capacity to support additional growth. Any additional capital investment would be supported by a customer commitment. We’ll keep you updated as we go throughout the year. Given our expected strong free cash flow generation in 2021, we expect to increase our distributions to shareholders, that includes reinstating opportunistic share repurchases sometime this year.

In closing, we’re very pleased with our strong close to 2020, highlighted by growing sales and profitability. We continue to focus on a rich set of opportunities. Our businesses are fundamental to the long-term growth drivers in the industries they serve and our more Corning strategy continues to deliver sales outperformance relative to our end markets. And I look forward to sharing our progress as the year goes on.

With that, let’s move to Q&A. Ann?

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Thanks, Tony. Operator, we’re ready for the first question.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tim Long with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Tim Long — Barclays — Analyst

Thank you. A two-part if I could on display. First, you talked about the pretty strong pricing environment into Q1. Could you talk a little bit, it’s obviously a little bit different supply dynamic and that’s normally a tough quarter for pricing. So how do you think about that as it kind of impacts the rest of the year, the cadence of normal pricing throughout the year? And second, can you talk a little bit about the move of some of the big providers from Korea to China has been on hold a little bit. So curious what your thoughts are, what that would mean to either the supply side of the equation or the pricing side? Thank you.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. I mean, I think it’s important to think about what’s happened over the last year from a display standpoint. The market overall was more robust than what we’ve expected and what the industry expected, which made the panel makers ran tight in the second half of 2020. Not only did those higher utilizations but the industry also brought down inventory to meet that demand and that meant that glass was tight throughout the year.

And as you know, we remain confident that things will remain tight on a — over the next several quarters because of where we think demand is, and as that demand continues to be met, there is also a need to replenish what’s happened from a supply chain standpoint in some of the tightness happened from a supply chain standpoint. So that’s obviously led to very favorable pricing in the first quarter and as we look out over the next several quarters, you know we think that if that environment continues, that tight environment continues.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

You know, just building on Tony’s, because I think you’re obviously a close watch here in the industry. We were tight. Our glass is tight and glass is going to stay tight for — as far as we can see right now. Then with our competitor having a power outage and the planned shutdown of the Korean operations, that tipped everything being delayed, because the market was so strong, that tipped everything in the shortage. So we went for being very tight to go into shortage, and that’s what led to the very, very strong quarter one pricing environment.

But we’re going to stay tight even as we address those. I think the Koreans will still ultimately continue to shift to those big Gen 10.5 plants, just because it’s more economical. But you know, right now, they continue to press us to be able to help them supply the Korean operations and they are not providing us a firm end date for — when they will transfer those over primarily because they continue to see this end market is being very strong. Does that make sense or does that answer your question?

Tim Long — Barclays — Analyst

Yeah, yeah, great. I’m just curious if it in any way changes kind of the longer term view of most of the production moving to China if that — if the delay here in the Koreans moving — does that change the overall outlook of the impact of your China position?

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think because these Gen 10.5 plants produce panels roughly at about a 30% cost advantage, especially when they’re integrated with our glass operations, the fastest, a pretty powerful microeconomic force, so that you’re just seeing the behavior set that when demand is well — is more than those ultimate low cost production assets, then less productive capacity stays full. And so, as that continues to grow, I still think the right bet is continuing movement towards those big Gen 10.5 plants.

Tim Long — Barclays — Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Shannon Cross with Cross Research. Your line is now open.

Shannon Cross — Cross Research — Analyst

Thank you very much for your — for taking my question. I wanted to dig a bit further into the opportunity for Valor over the next 18 to 24 months. And I’m just curious how maybe conversations have changed with partners, given the strong uptake, I know it’s from a small base, but Valor Glass vials related to COVID and just how maybe have your thoughts changed around the timing of investment and the ability to grow this business? Thank you.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So the way we view Valor, Shannon is, this is an opportunity to help make all of the safer. And so, we’ll go with virtue first rather than anyone of our previous plants. And so, now we are full on accelerating as fast as we can. We’re also looking at other ways that our Valor technology can help fill and finish operations, because as the world shift to try to address this really need for billions of doses, we want to make sure that other lifesaving medicines can be produced. And so, that bottleneck is going to increasingly shift towards fill and finish. And we are uniquely qualified to do that. Many of the vaccines have very complicated thermal cycles that our technology is once again uniquely positioned to do.

So the simple answer to your question is, it’s all hands on deck, trying to increase our production of Valor to increase the applicability of our technology across this platform. I personally have now switched to leading a key engineering program to help address this upcoming bottleneck. That’s a long answer, really I could have simply just said how has it changed our view. We need to make a lot more vials is the short answer to your question, Shannon.

Shannon Cross — Cross Research — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Wamsi Mohan from Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Wamsi Mohan — Bank of America — Analyst

Yes. Thank you. Good morning. So optical grew in the quarter on a year-on-year basis and you’re expressing confidence on the fact that the growth is going to continue. Can you maybe help us think about sort of the rate and pace of recovery in optical and how the conversations with your customers have changed through the course of the quarter that’s now giving you this confidence on growth? And you seem to be really firing across all cylinders here, I’m curious if you can maybe share some high level viewpoint on 2021 versus 2020, which segment would you say is going to be the largest contributor of growth and profitability? Thank you.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, let me first start with, from an optical standpoint, you know I think the last several calls, we’ve really have focused in — on, you know our fundamental belief that is bandwidth demand is increasing in users demand, higher performance, connections, that this was going to be positive from a business standpoint. And we even talked about, I think, in the last quarter about how our customers were beginning to talk more about that in their conference calls, you know there are plenty of examples of that.

I think what’s really happened over the last three or four months is that our sales and order rates have started to pick up, and it’s really that pickup in the sales and order rates which is what drove our growth on a year-over-year basis and why we’re confident that that growth is going to happen. So, I think the question before was, when was it going to happen, and I think the answer is, it’s happening now. And so, I think that’s how we think about it there.

And then I think from a — from an overall economic standpoint, clearly as we enter in the year, we had very strong fourth quarter and we expect to have a strong first quarter, but there’s still a lot of uncertainty in the world and we’re not in the greatest position to sort through how that uncertainty is actually going to play out. We think there is two places where we can provide unique insights, one was optical that we just talked about and the other was to better understand what’s happening from a display standpoint, you know that’s — but that’s the areas that we’re focused on during the call.

Wamsi Mohan — Bank of America — Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks. If I could quickly follow up, on the pricing front, I mean, as you noted, this is very unusual for our first quarter typically you reset price contracts in Q1 on LCD glass. You know, Wendell obviously articulated all the reasons why we’re seeing this better pricing and you’re also saying that this is — the market is going to stay relatively tight. But as you ramp your Gen 10.5 capacity, should we expect the pricing cadence to change through the course of the year, normally you have a big step down in Q1 and then you have very moderate through the rest of the year. This year you’re not really seeing a step down, in fact, for some customer, you’re seeing a step-up.

So should we expect that pace of pricing to remain as it have in past years, just very, very moderate or should we take that as more capacity ramps with 10.5 — Gen 10.5, you’re actually going to see more maybe accelerated pricing pressure as you go through the course of the year?

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think you should think of it Wamsi as, we would expect that moderation — the environment for moderation continues. I totally get your question though, because the pattern of pricing sort of is little different than normal. We had the best pricing in quarter one that we’ve had in a decade in terms of relative move, relative decrease. And so, the pattern question is like totally legit, but we do expect it to remain tight how the exact pattern plays out and you know let’s take a quarter at a time. And right now we see quarter one the way we see it, and we kind of look into quarter two as Tony said, you know it looks pretty favorable to us in continued moderation.

Wamsi Mohan — Bank of America — Analyst

Thanks, guys. Congrats on the quarter.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Asiya Merchant with Citi. Your line is now open.

Asiya Merchant — Citigroup — Analyst

Great. Thank you for the opportunity. Couple of quick questions. One on Specialty, clearly a very strong performance here in the face of smartphone undergoing and declining actually, but with a strong recovery ahead, if you can like dial down a little bit deeper into your expectations for Specialty, that would be great.

And then for Tony as well on opex, you guys are talking about, at recent conferences, about kind of being very well managed on the opex. Can you just talk to us about what are some of the changes that you’ve done internally that despite the growth that you’re seeing and the secular demand trend that you’re thinking about into 2021, opex should be well maintained here or well contained here, I should say? Thank you.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Great. Let’s start with opex and then I’ll touch briefly on Specialty. And I’d like to make a little more macro comment on how we see it here. Yeah, I think from an opex standpoint, Asiya, clearly when we got into the early parts of 2020 and things were changing, we did a number of things to adjust our operating cost. Some of them were, you know set-up, so that we would be able to — as the economies recovered, be able to respond to that, some of them were compensation related, for example, furloughs and things like that.

Certainly to the degree that business has returned, of course, those costs will also return, but from an overall standpoint, we’ve remained very focused from an opex standpoint to make sure that we’re getting leverage as we grow, and that we don’t grow our opex over a longer period of time as fast as we grow our sales, and that’s really our underlying philosophy from an opex standpoint.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think what structurally makes it possible for us to do is, when you see us lay out our three, four, five framework, what that allows us to do as we build on our market access platforms is that ability to sort of reduce and share those platforms, both in our — we’ve seen that both in our technology side, as well now in our customer facing organizations. And so that should allow us to more efficiently address the growth that we see, and over time, we do expect that at operating margin leverage to be sort of a more powerful generator for us than just at the manufacturing gross margin level. So you’re going to see us really addressing that market and that’s where we’re seeing the synergy really start to drive across our portfolio.

Let’s touch briefly on Specialty for you. We would expect that our outperformance versus the smartphone market to continue, and that’s sort of — I’m not calling what happens at the smartphone market. So that kind of takes me to sort of a broader point, and I’d be really interested in feedback from investors, both sell-side and buy, which is, here we saw the strong momentum, we knew it was coming, but we saw the strong momentum and really strong order book in Q4 and that continues into this quarter, sort of, in that increasing clarity enabled us to provide the sales and EPS guidance that we just did for quarter one.

Now we listen to our investors and made it simple and clear by providing sales and EPS for the entire company, rather than the more complicated and detailed market by market guidance that we previously provided. Now as we turn to the total year, simply put like, we expect our momentum and our outperformance versus our markets to continue.

So then the question really becomes, what happens in the macro environment? Now you all have your own experts and opinions on what’s going to happen in the macro. At Corning, we approach our ability to predict a macroeconomic and geopolitical events and tensions with great humility. Hence, we don’t think it’s helpful for us at this time to predict these forces and therefore what exactly our revenue for the year will be. What we are confident of is we’re going to outperform these market. So as you pick your geopolitical or macroeconomic scenario for our various markets, you know which you can count us, we’re going to better than that. So that maybe more than you wanted to know Asiya then, that’s how we think about it.

Asiya Merchant — Citigroup — Analyst

That’s great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mehdi Hosseini with SIG. Your line is now open.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for taking my question. Just as a follow-up on the Specialty Material. Wendell, when do you think we’re actually going to see enough of a penetration into other industries so for — specifically for Gorilla that you would have a more of a de-bundling from the smartphone market? And I have a follow-up.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Could you say one more? I want to make sure I understand your question.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Sure, sure.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Mehdi, because you always have — you always have very interesting one. So let me make sure I understand.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Sure. Thank you. We have been anticipating diversification of Gorilla Glass into other markets like auto, and then you highlighted Mercedes-Benz. And I just wanted to see what instigated you to actually illustrate that case, and in that context, how should we think about diversification of Gorilla in specialty material end market?

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I totally understand. It’s always really good question. So we highlighted that for two reasons. First, our momentum in auto glass systems is increasing, and it’s not yet at the point where we would say, okay, in your model, you got to start providing for display, because it’s going to change your macro numbers, but we can totally feel it and you will feel it more going forward. We’re also seeing Gorilla find its way into more and more of our maps. What we’re going to do is really talk about that in the form of those market access platforms as the various forms of that technology takes, serves multiple of our customer, believe it or not, it’s even finding its way into opto. So we will — let us take that note and as that becomes more important, we’ll make sure we share a little bit more on it Mehdi.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Sure. Thank you. And maybe I just — as a follow-up to that question. Thank you for providing detail opportunities in other industry. You highlighted $100 of content per car. I want to better understand whether some of the key assumptions, how are you thinking about the evolution of electric vehicle and as that segment grow. Is your $100 dollar content accounts for that change in auto industry? And is — does that also account for like Gorilla penetrating auto industry? And again, how should we — how should we think about variability in that $100 content?

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so I think the short answer to your question is, yes. It’s all of the above. So I think what we should do, what I would recommend we do is, why don’t we — why don’t you follow up with Ann and let us share this, the way we think about the map. And it would probably be an excellent report for you to do. Will it be helpful and laid out all out, because you had got a great question and we have the build and we’d be happy to share.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Okay. So, can I ask one…

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think Tony has something that he’s looking at me like he had something to add.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

No. I think, Mehdi, I think that would be great. Why don’t we — I think we talk to you later today and we can talk about next steps on this. And the only thing I wanted to point out as the CFO is that, any glass that sold to the automotive industry right now shows up in our auto — automotive or into our other segment, not in our specialty materials segment, but that — that was just more of a reporting point.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you very much.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You’re welcome.

Mehdi Hosseini — SIG — Analyst

Got it. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Samik Chatterjee with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open.

Joseph Cardoso — J.P. Morgan — Analyst

Hi, guys. This is Joe Cardoso on for Samik. Just one follow-up question from me on the optical side. Obviously the return of your growth and guide for full year growth is great to hear. But I just wanted to take a moment and focus on the profitability initiatives that has been done in that business specifically. Can you walk us through what you’ve been doing on the optical side particularly as it relates to take temporary versus permanent measures as well as if there is any weighting towards carrier versus the enterprise portions of those businesses? And as we see revenues come back in that business, is there any way you can gauge expectations relative to the profitability now versus, let’s say, a year ago assuming an apples-to-apples revenue profile?

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

No, I think from a overall standpoint, we’re seeing both growth in the carrier and in the enterprise business. Of course, the enterprise piece is a lot of work being grown from cloud computing, hyperscale data centers, you know some of the traditional enterprise pieces are more impacted by the economy, you’re not seeing that as much, but we’re really seeing growth in both parts of those businesses.

And from an operational standpoint, I mean, I think what’s important to note is that even though our revenues were down, we didn’t change our ability to supply that, because we always knew it was going to come back, you know there’s cost that you carry during those kinds of periods and then you fill those factories back up, you see expansions from a margin standpoint. And we saw that in the third and fourth quarter of this year and we’d expect to see that going forward.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. And also Joe, you have another dynamic, I think Tony nailed it, which is, as you expect revenues — as revenues expand, we would expect the margins to expand. There is another factor in opto that can always impact your quarter-to-quarter type of variability which is what precisely are the operators or the enterprise players buying. When they buy our more complicated highly engineered solutions, when they buy those, our profitability is higher, right. Then if you’re just buying bare fiber, fiber and cable, it depends what specific type of cable. And so mix starts to play a real role in opto when you think about it from quarter to quarter. But if you step back, I think Tony has nailed the fundamentals here, which is as we felt, we would expect the incrementals to be good.

Joseph Cardoso — J.P. Morgan — Analyst

Thanks, guys. I appreciate the insights and congrats on the results.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from John Roberts with UBS. Your line is now open.

John Roberts — UBS — Analyst

Thanks. Nice quarter, and glad to be active on the stock again.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

John, welcome. It’s so good to hear your voice, John. Long time no see.

John Roberts — UBS — Analyst

Yeah. You had another quarter to think about the strategy in semiconductors. You’ve got the lens business and specialty materials and it’s benefiting from EUV and put Hemlock in other and it doesn’t really benefit from any, I think, special trends going on in the semiconductor market. So it just looks like an opportunistic good deal at this point. Is there more to within that?

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So first, I’m just having flashbacks to almost a decade ago when you were telling me what we needed to do is make sure we ended up with Hemlock, because it fits so best better with us and the — and the silicon side did so much better with Dow [Phonetic]. And so, we finally got it done, John. It just took us a while. So yeah, we feel good about it. For sure, the economies on that deal are incredibly good and we really like that.

But actually your insight from all those years ago, I think is right, and we’re going to run some experiments here to try to see, can we make more of a difference to Hemlock, can we, with our capabilities make it accelerate or vice versa. We really are interested and can we address some of the significant issues there are with lack of domestic production of solar here in the US. So there is a number of — I think, there is a number of significant opportunities. It’s too early to say, will they work out or not? And some time, and I’d love to have a conversation with you about any ideas that you have on it as well, given how long you’ve advocated for this.

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And we will definitely do that John and we will get back with you on some of those ideas. And you know all I would say is that in the short term all the financial attractiveness of this deal is absolutely paying out as we expected it too. As you know, we didn’t put any money into this transaction and Hemlock generates a lot of cash. And so what debt they have, they mostly, you know started — will pay back within a year, in fact, they paid back a lot of it in the fourth quarter. They generated approximately $150 million of annual cash flow. So we’re very excited from a financial standpoint and also from a strategic standpoint.

John Roberts — UBS — Analyst

And maybe just an easier financial questions. You guided for 2021 capex roughly flat with 2020. Do you still expect it to be relatively modest through 2023 which you — that was your target I think at the Investor Day?

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think what happens through 2023, of course depends a lot on how much growth that we get and how much growth capital that we have to put in, you know build capital that we have to put in over the next several years. And the good news is, any build capital, I mean, first of all, it comes with growth and secondly it comes with pretty significant customer commitments.

John Roberts — UBS — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Go ahead, Joel.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Your line is now open.

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. I just had two quick questions. First on the 25 points of outperformance for Specialty Materials versus mobile device sales last year. Can you sort of put that in perspective, where maybe there are some unusual in this to the outperformance, what maybe a normal rate of change would be versus markets, etc.? And then just as a follow up, when you talk about the bullishness with optical, how much are you factoring in the recent auctions on the rural side, in the 5G side into that bullishness or is this before thinking about those things? Thanks.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think on the specialty side, you can always expect us to outperform because of the more Corning strategy, putting more content, higher value content in. What that rate of that is, I think, you’re quite wise to say well that could depend on which particular products are working really well for our end customers and how much of that has our newest technology, use different types of our technology and that gets a lot harder to predict. Because you not only have to call the total market, but then which OEMs sort of win in that market, as well as which of our technologies play. But I think overall, you could think about it as we will outperform, it’s just a little too early in the year to give you some insight as to like how much to outperform, Steven, I’m sorry, on that.

And then on opto, you’re right to identify, it is definitely a positive, but it is just one of the certain number of positive impacts and announcements that you’re seeing from our key customers. It’s never been — as Tony said, it’s never been that we did it. We believe strongly that our customers would have to build and invest to meet the very strong demand. Where we wanted to do though is before we predicted when it would come, we wanted to see it in our sales, we wanted to see it in our order book, we wanted to see the projects actually start. And so that’s where we’re seeing and that’s why we’re seeing it.

Steven Fox — Fox Advisors — Analyst

That’s helpful. Congrats on the quarter.

Wendell P. Weeks — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Steve.

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Joel, we’ll take one last question.

Operator

Thank you. And the question is from Rod Hall with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Rod Hall — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for sneaking me, and I appreciate it. I’ve just got one question and that is mainly, I guess, aimed at Tony. Tony, we’re looking at the cash flow conversion of EBITDA in the fourth quarter and it’s lower than we anticipated. We see the working capital release a little lower than last year. So that’s one of the drivers that normally we see pretty good conversion in Q4, I assume, maybe there is COVID-related impacts, etc. But wonder if you could dig into the color on that a little bit more for us and help us understand the dynamics, the cash flow conversion, whether it’s one-off in nature and kind of some of those things go away as we move into the year here?

Tony Tripeny — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, actually we were quite pleased with our cash flow conversion in the back half of the year compared to NPAT, which is the way a lot of people talk about the cash flow conversion. I mean, our cash flow and our NPAT was the same number in the fourth quarter and it was — and our cash flow was a little bit better than our NPAT in the third quarter. So I mean, we were real happy with the cash flow conversion.

In terms of some of the specifics there, Rod, you know when we talk to you later today, I’d be happy to walk through it with you. But overall, we were very excited about our cash flow conversion. And frankly, that’s a question that a lot of our investors have asked us over the last couple of years and it’s something that we’ve been focused on and this is what happens when we’re not in a build cycle. We generate a lot of operating cash flow, we generate a lot of free cash flow, and we saw that in the back half of this year, we expect to see more of that in 2021.

Rod Hall — Goldman Sachs — Analyst

Great. Okay. Thanks, Tony.

Ann Nicholson — Vice President of Investor Relations

Yeah. Thanks, Rod, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Before we close, I just wanted to let you know that we will attend the Goldman Sachs 2021 Virtual Tech and Internet Conference on February 11, the UBS West Coast Conference on February 23, and the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom Conference on March 1. And a replay of today’s call will be available on our site starting later this morning. Operator, that concludes our call. Please disconnect all lines.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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