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Enerpac Tool Group Corp (EPAC) Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript
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Enerpac Tool Group Corp (NYSE: EPAC) Q2 2021 earnings call dated Mar. 24, 2021.
Corporate Participants:
Bobbi Belstner — Director, Investor Relations & Strategy
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Analysts:
Joe Grabowski — Robert W. Baird — Analyst
Jeff Hammond — KeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst
Brendan Popson — CJS Securities — Analyst
Ann Duignan — JPMorgan — Analyst
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Justin Bergner — G. Research — Analyst
Presentation:
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Enerpac Tool Group’s Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded March 24, 2021.
It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Bobbi Belstner, Director of Investor Relations and Strategy. Please go ahead, Ms. Belstner.
Bobbi Belstner — Director, Investor Relations & Strategy
Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Enerpac Tool Group’s second quarter fiscal ’21 earnings conference call. On the call today to present the company’s results are Randy Baker, President and Chief Executive Officer; Rick Dillon, Chief Financial Officer; and Jeff Schmaling, Chief Operating Officer. Also with us are Barb Bolens, Chief Strategy Officer; Fab Rasetti, General Counsel; and Bryan Johnson, Chief Accounting Officer.
Our earnings release and slide presentation for today’s call are available on our website at enerpactoolgroup.com in the Investors section. We are also recording this call and will archive it on our website.
During today’s call we will reference non-GAAP measures such as adjusted profit margins and adjusted earnings. You can find a reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures in the schedules to this morning’s release.
We also would like to remind you that we will be making statements in today’s call and presentation that are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements. We are making those statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities law. Please see our SEC filings for the risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from forecasts, anticipated results, or other forward-looking statements.
Consistent with how we have conducted prior calls, we ask that you follow our one question, one follow-up practice, in order to keep today’s call to an hour and also allow us to address questions from as many participants as possible. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Now I will turn the call over to Randy.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Bobbi, and good morning everybody. We’re going to start today on Slide 3. And before we review the details in the quarter, I’d like to provide an overview of Enerpac’s progress and our recovery from the global pandemic. As always, safety is our number one concern for our employees worldwide. And as of today we still have approximately 40% working from home offices. In the quarter, we were affected by regional spikes in the infection resulting in full border closures in the Middle East. We responded by returning to the broad lockdown processes we’ve been using throughout the pandemic. Unfortunately this did have an impact on our sales and slowed our recovery progress. Despite these factors we were able to improve the performance in the quarter to near parity with our first quarter results. This is not our typical cycle within a fiscal year, as the second quarter is normally a low point for both sales and profit.
Secondly, our cost efforts continue to support very positive decremental margins, which are in line with our expectations of 35% to 45%. As I discussed in prior quarters, we have protected our ability to execute the long-term strategy, including new product development, sales coverage and our capital allocation priorities. Our focus on the balance sheet as enabled us to pay down an additional $45 million in debt in the quarter, which further enhances the long-term performance of Enerpac. Lastly, as we emerge from the pandemic, Enerpac is focusing on developing and improving our company. We firmly believe without engaged well trained employees we cannot successfully execute our strategy. With that in mind, we have launched programs to recruit, develop and retain team members and ensure everyone is proud to be part of Enerpac.
Moving over to Slide 4. Our weekly and monthly sales is our most monitored metrics we use to understand the progression towards full recovery. And consistent with prior quarters, this chart provides a graphical representation of our normal operating range and actual results experienced in the quarter. As you can see the second quarter was firmly back within the operating range of a normal year with the upward trend we expect. We believe this progress will continue through the balance of the fiscal year and position Enerpac at near normal levels as we progress through the third and fourth quarter.
Now flipping over to Slide 5. As I mentioned earlier, the second quarter was essentially flat with our first quarter results. Core sales declined by 11% in the quarter, comprised of down 11% in products and 12% in service. The increased infection rate experienced in the quarter resulted in border closures in several Middle Eastern countries which slowed our recovery. Absent these factors the topline would have been very close to achieving our prior year sales. Our adjusted EBITDA decremental margin was 29% or at the low end of our expected range. And year-to-date we have achieved a 21% decremental result. Our focus on cost controls continues to pay dividends and help protect our ability to execute the strategy. Free cash flow in the quarter was positive, which is not the typical result for our second quarter and on a year-to-date basis we have improved our free cash flow by more than $40 million year-over-year. This enabled Enerpac to pay down an additional $45 million in debt and exit the quarter with a leverage of 2.1 times.
Sales results vary by region, but were consistent with prior quarters. Europe and Asia Pacific have been our best performing regions in terms of consistency and progress towards normal sales volume. The Americas improved sequentially during the quarter, but are still in the mid-teens decline versus prior year. And as earlier mentioned, Mideast operations was affected by border closures which resulted in a decline year-over-year in the low double-digit range. Overall, we are progressing towards normal sales in operating ranges and delivering increasing profitability.
I’m going to turn the call over to Jeff and Rick to review the details in the quarter and I’ll come back with the market projections and some more guidance. Jeff, over to you.
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Thanks, Randy. I’ll add some detail on Q2 from a regional perspective as well as touch on some of our key verticals and distribution and then I’ll finish up on Enerpac operations and a few comments about the Cortland business. As a general comment, I think you’ll see that this past quarter continues to confirm the significant differences and how our global markets are recovering as well as how the various countries and regions we serve are responding to the continued challenges of this pandemic.
Starting on Slide 6. In total, we are pleased to see continued sequential year-over-year improvement in both product and service sales in the second quarter. Despite still being down year-over-year, we’re encouraged by the feedback from our distributors about their businesses and the strong quoting activity that we’re seeing in our primary markets. We’ll start with the Americas. And as I said dealer sentiment has turned noticeably more positive and there is a general consensus that most will be getting back to pre-COVID activity levels in the coming months. We saw an increase in overall — in stocking orders in both January and February and another decline in our drop ship rates which further confirms that our dealers confidence is improving. We’re also seeing some positive indicators from our OEMs and national account business and we did see a sequential increase in our backlog for these accounts in the quarter, which is starting to look more like our normal pre-COVID levels.
The severe weather that caught Texans by surprise in February also contributed to some mis-product and service revenues around the Gulf. Some of these issues however, coupled with the strengthening or the continuing strength in oil prices may offer some opportunities to recover some of this as we move into the third quarter.
Looking at our vertical markets. General construction and power gen, specifically wind continue to improve in the US as well as growing demand in mining in Western Canada in our oil sands customers. Strong copper and iron ore pricing and demand continues to give our mining distributors opportunities in Chile, Peru and Brazil. However, we are continuing to struggle a bit with COVID restrictions in Mexico. Our ability to visit customer sites and dealers is slowly improving and we’re anxious to continue to ramp-up once the vaccination efforts and reopenings continue to get more traction.
Moving on to Europe. Coming off a strong first quarter in Europe, we were up slightly year-over-year in the second quarter, but the region turned in a solid performance driven by both general distribution on core products as well as some nice project wins in Heavy Lifting and Machines. Various headwinds from continued COVID restrictions and some challenges related to Brexit did cause some minor delays in late quarter shipments, but we expect these to ease as the various countries sort through these new regulations. Taking a look at our key markets in Europe, we do continue to see strong quoting and wins in wind and infrastructure projects, especially in bridge construction and repair. Government spending in this sector is expected to remain robust and we are well positioned to capture more of this work in the back half, primarily in our Lifting and Torque and Tension products.
I would normally not go into too much detail on this call about specific wins in the quarter, but I have included a picture here on the Dardanelles Bridge project near Istanbul to give you a glimpse of the kind of projects that gets us really excited. Enerpac supply of heavy cylinders, pumps and controls will enable the construction of what will be the longest suspension bridge in the world, connecting both sides of the Dardanelles strait. The bridge will carry three lanes of highway traffic in each direction and is slated to open in late 2023. While this project is not really material from the total company sales perspective, this project does show our strong capabilities with unique customer solutions to challenging problems, and is really a good example of the type of work that increase in infrastructure spending could bring in for us.
Moving on to APAC. This region has faced multiple stops and starts as it relates to market recovery, due to the ongoing border lockdowns. China remains fairly stable and Australia, along with New Zealand are showing signs of improvement due to their quick response to infection flare-ups. Conversely, South East Asia continues to struggle and be a challenge, particularly in Malaysia and Thailand with lockdowns that just recently started to lift. I previously mentioned strong iron ore pricing and that’s also driving some strength for us in mining in Australia. Investments in wind and power gen are providing some tailwinds as well for us as — and oil prices are driving some improving sales and quoting on both products and services in this region.
Moving on to Slide 7. And turning to our MENAC region. Overall, we did see sequential improvement for the quarter. We actually had a pretty strong quarter going until early February when as Randy mentioned, COVID spikes forced several border closings into some key areas of the Middle East. This did cause several projects to be suspended and pushed out some meaningful service and product revenue from our quarter. Despite the efforts of our team to utilize resources, we also saw a drop off of our quick turn work as well, which led to some unexpected underutilization. This as moved some projects to the right into the back half of the year and other projects completely out of the fiscal year. That being said, improved oil price and the continuation of OPEC’s January production cuts may offer us some opportunities to supply crews at relatively short notice, so we’re staying close to our customers to take advantage of any emergent work as it comes up.
On the product perspective in this region, we’ve been working hard and diversifying our exposure beyond oil and gas, and I’m really heartened by some success recently related to both product and service work in the Power Gen space as well as improved quoting and construction, rail and aero space. As we’ve progressed through the early part of Q3 here, we have begun to see some meaningful year-over-year improvement in our product order rates.
Switching from regions to new products, we like to talk about new products and Q2 was another strong quarter for new product development as we launched several products and maintained our NPVI metric at our 10% target for the sixth consecutive quarter. Our Q2 launch event included not only several marketing programs and collateral to get our customers and dealers engaged, but we’re also continuing to increase the number of languages and translations that we can leverage common materials in more parts of the world to drive pre-orders and get our partners trained up on our new offerings.
Just a couple of comments on our global operations. All of our sites continue to navigate the complexities of operating during a pandemic really well. Continuing to deliver on our commitments to safety, quality and on-time delivery, which were all positives for the quarter. As volume returns to a normalized level, we remain focused on utilization, which improved as we progressed through the quarter. On our earnings call back in December, we talked about the fact that we did not roll out of our typical September 1 price increases last year, but given the steady increase in both commodities and our freight costs, we will be taking pricing here in Q3 in all of our regions.
Speaking on our supply chain and inventory. As we enter the back half of the year, we’re clearly expecting increased demand for our core products. And just as we did at the start of the pandemic, our supply chain and operations teams are working extremely hard to ensure our inventories match our outlook and we’re staying ahead of lead times with our main suppliers to ensure we can continue to support our customers and win orders. In this tightening supply chain environment, we are again threading the needle a bit to make sure we have the right products on the shelves, but also that we don’t burden the balance sheet with any excess inventory where it’s not needed.
And now switching to the Cortland business. We experienced another quarter of sequential improvement with the combined business down 21% year-over-year versus the 35% down we saw last quarter. I touched a little bit on the weather issues in Texas and that definitely impacted the industrial ropes portion of the Cortland business in the quarter. We are encouraged, however, by the increased port activity we’re seeing now as a signal that overall activity is returning to a normalized level and we’re seeing some nice opportunities in heavy lift for offshore renewables. I’m pleased to report that the COVID related production challenges we talked about in our last call have been resolved and we look forward to growth in the back half of this fiscal year.
In terms of the medical side of the business, we did see an increase in activity starting in January, as customers began to replenish their inventories and our relocation activities into our new Cortland, New York facility were completed. We expect the sales uptick in February to continue as we move into the second half and we’re really excited about the future of the Med business and our efforts to continue to diversify our customer base that were bolstered by some nice wins this past quarter that put us into some new applications, new customers and leveraging our expertise.
With that, I’ll turn the call over to Rick for some financials.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, everyone. I’ll start with a quick recap here on Slide 8. Fiscal 2021 second quarter sales increased slightly when compared to the first quarter and were down 11% from the prior year. Core tools product sales were down 10% and that’s an improvement from down 14% in the first quarter. Service was down 12% compared to down 24% in the first quarter and Cortland sales were down 21% or $2 million versus down 35% in the first quarter. We had an approximately $3 million impact from our acquisition of HTL. The adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 10% and that’s down from 12% reported in the first quarter and in the prior year. The adjusted tax rate for the quarter was 16%, which is up slightly from the prior year. We expect our full year adjusted effective tax rate to be in the range of 20% to 25%.
Let’s turn to Slide 9. Jeff already covered what we’re seeing by region, and I’ll just make a few additional comments here. We had a favorable $3 million impact from foreign currency with the continued weakening of the dollar during the quarter. If current FX rates hold, we would expect to see continued tailwinds from currency in the back half of the year as well. As Jeff discussed, our service sales were impacted by border closing in our MENAC region. Those closings had an impact for the region of about $5 million and that includes $3 million from the delay of service project revenue in the quarter. It is important to note here that, but for the impact, we would have reported service revenues on parity with our 2020 results. This is a good indicator of recovery as the second quarter revenues in both fiscal ’21 and fiscal ’20 exclude the large projects that were included in ’19. As a reminder, Q2 is historically our lowest quarter and Q3 is usually our strongest quarter. Q3 2020 was also the trough in terms of COVID impact on our results with core sales down 38% year-over-year. As we look at the pace of recovery going forward, we would expect to see accelerated sequential quarterly and year-over-year growth in the back half of the year as we anniversary our worst two COVID impacted quarters.
So moving on to adjusted EBITDA in the waterfall on Slide 10. As we have noted, our decremental margin excluding the impact of currency was 29% and continues to reflect the improved leverage that our lower cost structure provides as sequential volumes increase. We anticipate incremental margins in the back half will in turn be at the high end of our stated range of 35% to 45%. As we have seen through the pandemic, lower product sales volume continues to weigh heavily on our adjusted EBITDA margins. The impact of service sales was offset by a favorable mix with service margins up about 400 basis points year-over-year as we continue to focus on — globally on higher volume at higher value-added and more profitable service work. Manufacturing variances, this quarter totaled approximately $1 million and that’s down from the $6 million reported in Q1. It is comprised of three elements: service utilization, increased freight costs and under-absorption in our Cortland facilities on the lower sales volume that Jeff just discussed.
We have worked to stabilize our tools manufacturing facilities with minimal COVID disruptions in the quarter and as a result, you did not see the $3 million of under-absorption reflected in the first quarter. Our service under utilization is about $500,000 and that’s down from the $2 million we saw in our first quarter, and consistent with our expectations on service coming into the quarter. As Jeff discussed, as we manage our service recovery through the pandemic, we have been closely monitoring projects and timing of our labor mobilization, which has allowed us to right-size our permanent and temporary labor resources for existing demand.
Our second quarter air freight spend was about $1 million. This is up from the $800,000 we incurred in the first quarter on both volume and rates. With our increasing demand, we had more air freight in the quarter. Air freight rates remain at 2 times normal levels and we expect this to continue through our fiscal year-end. We continue to see rising commodity costs in particularly steel and aluminum and with rising demand suppliers are now seeking price increases. We expect to see a 2% to 3% increase in steel machine parts or $200,000 to $600,000 increase in costs. Although aluminum prices have increased approximately 60% since the beginning of our fiscal year, we have negotiated aluminum driven cost increases in the 3% to 6% range with our suppliers, which will limit the impact on our spend in the back half of the year.
As Jeff noted, we are moving ahead with targeted pricing actions in all regions that will pass through these inflationary costs. As we discussed last quarter, we are winding down our temporary COVID cost actions with savings of approximately $1 million in the quarter and that split evenly between international government stimulus funds and remaining international furloughs. SG&A favorability includes both reduced travel costs and outside consulting. We expect travel cost to continue to fluctuate as sales and commercial activities expands or retracts by region. EBITDA margins also reflect that we reinstated our bonus plan and COVID [Phonetic] can match this quarter. The combined impact resulted in an increase of about $3 million in expense year-over-year. While the bonus impact is oversize in terms of historical expense at this level of EBITDA, it is important for us to recognize the tremendous commitment of our employees during the crisis. Our previously announced restructuring actions resulted in approximately $3 million in the savings — in savings for the second quarter.
Turning now to liquidity on Slide 11. We generated just over $1 million in free cash flow during the quarter, and this was the first time we generated free cash flow in our second quarter in over five years. A $4 million increase due to timing in receivables was offset by an increase in payables. We were able to hold inventories flat, striking a balance between increasing demand and working capital management. As we look to the back half of the year, we will continue to monitor inventory levels, but do anticipate increased levels in the third quarter in conjunction with the increasing demand. We ended the quarter with $115 million in cash on hand and that’s after paying down $45 million of our borrowings under the revolving credit agreement. Our leverage is at 2.1 times and that’s up from the 1.9 times at the end of the first quarter.
We are pleased with where we sit from a cash and liquidity perspective. As we progress through the back half of the year, our leverage should improve significantly as we drop off our worst two COVID impacted quarters from our trailing 12-month EBITDA. This should position us well as we look to continue our strategy execution and disciplined capital allocation.
Randy. I’ll turn it back over to you now.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Rick. Let’s turn over to Slide 12. As we think about the balance of the year in our progress towards normal sales volumes and profitability, we’ve come to the conclusion the full economics and the sequential improvement will position Enerpac at near parity with our 2019 core sales levels as we exit the fiscal year. Secondly, we fully expect incremental margins to be in the range of 35% to 45% on core sales, and lastly, we will continue to focus on cost control and executing our margin expansion strategy. All the current economic outlooks are pointing towards full recovery as we exit the fiscal year and support our forward projections. This is further supported by our booked orders, which have increased sequentially and are up 15% in the first few weeks of March. As always, we are cautious concerning the potential resurgence of the virus, however, the advent of a wide distribution of vaccines is creating our sense of optimism.
Moving over to Slide 13. This brings us to our projections for the remainder of fiscal 2021. We are projecting sales to be in the range of $280 million to $290 million with accelerating sequential improvement. We are projecting the growth rates in the back half of the year as follows: products should be up in the mid 20% range, services project to be up in the low-to-high 40% range and Cortland is projected to improve by 20% to low 30%. Additionally, incremental margin should be at the high end of our normal range of 35% to 45% benefiting from cost actions and the high gross profit generated from tool sales. Our assumptions remain consistent with our objectives to reduce the interest expenses and maximize earnings.
As with many companies the road to recovery has been long, but our team has performed extraordinarily well under very difficult conditions. We have proven the strength and vitality of the Enerpac Tool Group and to remain profitable even under the most difficult conditions. Enerpac remains an industrial leader in high-precision and quality tool with best-in-class operating results. And as you can see from our final slide the four basic strategic objectives remain consistent and we are highly committed to their achievement.
Operator, with that, that concludes today’s prepared remarks. Let’s open it up for questions.
Questions and Answers:
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mig Dobre with Baird. Please state your question.
Joe Grabowski — Robert W. Baird — Analyst
Yes, good morning everyone. It’s Joe Grabowski on for Mig, this morning.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning.
Joe Grabowski — Robert W. Baird — Analyst
Hey, good morning. Thanks so much for the guidance. Very helpful and a lot of color around it too. It’s difficult looking at year-over-year right now because we’re about to go against the toughest of COVID shut down. So I was looking at your guidance, second half ’21 versus first half ’21, and at the midpoint it implies a 19% improvement, second half versus first half. The chart on Slide 4 show that there is seasonality and sales to improve in a normal year from second half to first half, maybe 5% or 6%. But when you think about your business as your end markets geography, second half versus first half, what are kind of the key drivers for that 19% sequential second half improvement?
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Let me cover the broad side and then Jeff, why don’t you jump in on some specifics. But if you think about the percentage that I discussed of the back half growth rates of tool sales in the broad vertical markets we serve are key to our profitability because that’s where the highest gross profit comes from and then certainly the full recovery of our service business, which includes the service rental. So we’re looking at all our major vertical markets as Jeff mentioned we’re seeing great activity in civil construction, which includes bridge activity, bridge maintenance. We’re seeing good activity in alternative energy markets. And we also see a very strong commodity market. And if you go backwards in time and think about when were the last times we saw commodity prices at this level? Not specifically, the oil and gas markets, which are certainly trending very well in the right direction. But if you also think about the base metals and agricultural products, it’s all pointing in the right direction. So that’s probably one of the macro drivers that I look at or the fundamental supporting those growth rates and we feel they are and so that’s the drivers there. And then Jeff, do you want to jump in and give some more specific?
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes, kind of leapfrogging on to your commodity story. Normally as we enter Q3, we’re starting to see a ramp-up in construction especially infrastructure type work. So that — that’s a normal sequential thing for us, but we’re seeing increased activity after frankly kind of a quiet period we’ve been through during — due to the pandemic. And a lot of our OEMs that service a variety of verticals are seeing increased activity as I spoke to in my comments as well. So infrastructure especially and as I highlighted the bridge project, but there is an awful lot of those in our quote log as well. We’re starting to see some improvement in that type of spending here in the US, although not nearly enough quite yet. We’re looking forward to some of that. But overall, just an uptick in kind of all the prime verticals that we serve.
Joe Grabowski — Robert W. Baird — Analyst
Great. Okay. That’s really helpful color. Thank you. And I guess my follow-up question. I’ll kind of stick with the same math. If I look at EBITDA second half versus first half, rough math, it implies about a 17% EBITDA margin in the second half versus an 11% on the first half. So pretty healthy incremental sequentially. Maybe just talk about some of the cost headwinds and the cost tailwind that are may be helping or hurting second half to first half to drive that EBITDA margin improvement?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Sure. I think the — as we’ve been saying I think the biggest tailwind will be improving product volume. And so that’s going to be the biggest driver to that improvement first half to second half. You’ll see about the — see incremental bonus expense at some level. And you’ll see a little bit of incremental savings. We hope to get the benefit of continued improved utilization less under absorption like you saw in Q2. So I think the biggest — Q1 to Q2 I think the biggest tailwind will be product volume. You do have a mix play that will be favorable as the product volume kicks out and that’s going to be our biggest driver of improvement.
Joe Grabowski — Robert W. Baird — Analyst
Got it, okay. Thanks for taking my questions guys. Good luck.
Operator
Our next question comes from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question.
Jeff Hammond — KeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst
Hey, good morning guys.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning, Jeff.
Jeff Hammond — KeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst
So just on — I guess another cut it price cost, I think you talked about air freight manufacturing variances in the first half. How are you thinking about manufacturing variances in the second half? And then also, are you doing something to kind of shift away from this air freight issue over time?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
So a couple of things. I think air freight is a bigger factor now because of the rising demand and it’s not just our business, it’s kind of global and our — managing our inventory levels. So as I said on the call, you saw more in Q2. As we carefully balance inventory levels, you’ll see a little bit more air freight than normal. I think over time, you see — as we’ve talked about, the goal is to minimize air freight and we focus a lot on our sales and us planning to do that. This is an unusual period because we are kind of threading the needle here on how much inventory you let back in without just opening the floodgates until we see kind of a sustainable level of normal demand that Randy talked about which we think we’ll get to by the end of the quarter.
I think from a utilization and a cost perspective or absorption, we still believe back half will have neutral to favorable absorption as we look at our operating facilities, certainly favorable front half to back half, and then the cost associated with that as we talked about, we took the targeted pricing such that any incremental commodity flash rate, all of those inflationary costs would be covered by pricing, so that should be a net neutral from an EBITDA perspective.
Jeff Hammond — KeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst
Okay. And then just at a high level, I mean, I think you seem to have line of sight to kind of get back to demand levels kind of pre-COVID. And for dating [Phonetic] that you were — there are a lot of moving pieces with kind of restructuring and resizing the company for its simplification. Just maybe as you step back and look at the — your structural cost base, how are you feeling about as you get back to this more normal rate kind of starting to get back on track to these long-term margin targets?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Sure. As we consistently talked about structurally, we’ve taken the $32 million worth of cost out. We feel good about that. There will always be opportunities to continue to drive efficiency and we continue to look at that. We really think from a margin perspective, this is really about volume. And then I define it in two steps. First, getting back to kind of that normal flow which would take us back to when we set the margin target, take us back to that $600 million in topline, and then — and we view that as market recovery. And then leveraging our growth on top of that, which is driven by NPD, which is driven by focus on value-added and service work and rental, we believe those two as kind of the final steps to getting to that 25%. If the recovery continues, the sooner we get to the $600 million mark, you’ve got margins in excess of 20% that based on the work we’ve done, it should be in that 21% to 22% if not better. And then the further sequential improvement of value is what drives us to a 25%. So we are still committed to our objective. We think we’ve done all of the things we need to do and a little bit of broken record. You see it in the quarter, we see it in the EBITDA margin improvements, first half, back half. We believe getting back to that normal run rate gets us to the 20% plus EBITDA margin and sets us up to drive 25%.
Jeff Hammond — KeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst
Okay. Thanks a lot.
Operator
Our next question comes from Brendan Popson with CJS Securities. Please state your question.
Brendan Popson — CJS Securities — Analyst
Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask with your commentary on the back half of the year. Obviously, Q3 is typically the strongest, but it sounds like you’re expecting the recovery — sequential growth in the Q4. I just want to confirm if that’s the case. And then following up on that, you also had a comment that you expect to be at pre-COVID levels at the exit of the year. So I guess outside of any further hiccups, is that looking out beyond FY ’21? Is that a good way to think about your revenue potential as we exit the year?
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Yes, that’s exactly what we were referring is that first of all, the sequential improvement will accelerate. And we’re very happy with the inbound orders that we’ve seen to date in March. And one of the interesting elements that we’re watching is that if you recall last year, the big drop-off didn’t occur until the last week or so of March. And so the fact that we were already 15% up versus prior year in March is really supporting our projections that it’s going to accelerate and we’re going to have somewhat of an off-cycle or a typical year, where the third quarter is our peak, followed by the fourth. We believe that that will be — that cycle will not occur this year that will be sequentially better each month and each quarter.
And so if you think about the pressure wave that I gave you in the slides earlier on in our prepared remarks, that gives you the range of a normal operating year. And what we do is we look at the best months that have been achieved and the worst month have achieved over a particular history of the company, and you can see we’re back in that range, and the slope of that line has been accelerating. So we look at the economic reports. We look at our inbound booked orders. We’re looking at how well our factories are performing. And then we look at our major vertical markets that Jeff walked us through, and all of those factors bring us to the conclusion that the exit point of the year we’re back in business. And as Rick said, now that we’ve worked on our balance sheet, very, very hard, we positioned this company very well to start accelerating our strategies, which is around certainly other things beyond just the organic growth story.
Brendan Popson — CJS Securities — Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Just to add…
Brendan Popson — CJS Securities — Analyst
Yes, go ahead.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Quickly here, when you look at the pressure wave on Slide 4 in terms of how you should be thinking about Q3 versus Q4. Q3 obviously, normally has that peak, you can see it on the pressure wave. This will be a sequential improvement, and if you look at that dotted line, it speaks clearly to order rates getting back to kind of normal by the time you get to the end of our Q4. So by normal, we mean back into the pressure wave, and that’s our expectation. So your question of the continued sequential improvement, as Randy described, you can also see it on the slide.
Brendan Popson — CJS Securities — Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you. I appreciate the color.
Operator
Our next question comes from Ann Duignan with JPMorgan. Please state your question.
Ann Duignan — JPMorgan — Analyst
Hi. Good morning. I’d like to just go back to price cost if we could. Can you talk about the pricing that you said you’ve issued this quarter? Is that just on products going through distribution? Is that on all products? Is it on all products and services? And how much did you increase pricing? I’m trying to get a sense of how much pricing will contribute to the guidance you gave for decrementals — incrementals?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
So I view this as similar to what we did back when we were looking at tariffs. These were targeted pricing for targeted products that are specifically impacted by the costs we’re seeing. So it wasn’t across the board. As we talked that the tariffs, it’s anywhere from, call it, 1% to as high as 4%. But again it’s specific to the cost impacting those products. So when you think about read through pricing on a net basis, what I said earlier was this will — pricing will offset cost. And we’ll continue to look here in the back half do we — what pricing looks like going forward to generate that normal lead to roughly 1% that we would take on an annual basis. But these actions are cost specific and net neutral for the back half of the year.
Ann Duignan — JPMorgan — Analyst
And I appreciate that. I guess my follow-up is along the same lines. On the cost side then, I’m assuming now that you had purchased a lot of your steel and a lot of your aluminum earlier before prices got to where they are today. So you may be price cost-neutral for the next quarter or two quarters based on your forecast. But for how long will the current pricing cover you in terms of neutral into next year without further price increases?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Well, what’s a little bit different this year than maybe historically is while we do have some of the steel or machine parts, I should say purchased, we’re not sitting nearly anywhere near the inventory levels that we’ve historically had. So the numbers I gave are kind of back half focus with the price really being taken to offset those costs. So at some point, should prices go down or when prices go down, there will be a benefit. But right now, we’re really factoring in how we’re going to manage this, the cost associated with bringing inventories back up, both to meet demand and then on a go-forward basis, we’ve been talking about sales and also [Phonetic] planning. So our purchases will be much closer to demand than we’ve historically seen and we should see the lower inventory levels accordingly.
Ann Duignan — JPMorgan — Analyst
Okay, that’s helpful. I appreciate that. And then just a quick follow-up on cash flow. Would you expect cash flow to be negative in Q3, just given comments and adding inventory, etc, just unseasonably but the first half was unseasonable also?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Right. We didn’t provide the guide on cash. And I think you hit it because we really have to monitor inventory enough to monitor demand and the timing of the demand through Q3, Q4. As we talked about earlier, you definitely see an accelerating demand as we approach the end of Q4. So this is about working capital, which will be the biggest driver, obviously, when it gets lots of favorability from the EBITDA. But the working capital is going to be carefully managed. So it’s hard to say, what those data look like on a quarter-by-quarter basis.
Ann Duignan — JPMorgan — Analyst
Okay, I appreciate that. I’ll get back in queue. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from Deane Dray with RBC. Please state your question.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Good morning.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Hey, could we circle back on the impact of the extreme weather in Texas? You said there were some miss business opportunities, interruptions. Can you quantify that? How much was regrouped in the quarter? How much you think in the coming quarter that will contribute in terms of a catch-up? And are there any new construction opportunities that will come out of it? We’re hearing lots of investment in hardening of the grid and the wind turbines, any new opportunities that are going to come out of that for you guys?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Sure. I’ll start with impact on the quarter that — from a quarter perspective, I would say, roughly call it $1 million topline, somewhere in there. So — and it’s just definitely a split between Q2, Q3, Q4 — likely Q3. So not a huge impact but an impact nonetheless as the margin flow through on those products, on that work is pretty good. So that’s what we see in terms of impact. Timing, it is a split between Q2, Q3. And we did start to see that will come back online as we kind of navigate it through the quarter. So that’s how we think about the impact from the weather in Texas. Jeff, do you want to talk about opportunities?
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes. Again, just — mainly what was impacted was some labor — some jobs that we were scheduled to go out and we didn’t. Primarily the biggest from a margin impact was the lack of rentals. We normally rent quite a bit of tooling out of our Deer Park facility, which obviously didn’t go out, had a little bit of logistics impact. We couldn’t get trucks in and out, where we needed to ship some products. But I guess the impact on product was relatively minor. In terms of going forward, yes, I think a lot of it is going to come back perhaps plus some in Q3. Here, we’re already seeing our rentals start to pick up. Our request for a little longer term rental on equipment pick up. And to your question specifically, we are seeing some opportunities for some repair and some strengthening of the grid down there. So probably — primarily a Q3 impact on the plus side.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
All right. That’s good to hear. And I apologize if you said this and I missed it. The uptick in orders for March of 15% is pretty impressive. And any way you would break that out in terms of geographies, business verticals, just additional color there? I think since that is we’re at this pivot point now, anything that we can gauge, that would be helpful.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Let me just start off so it’s very broad. It’s what we needed to see and a lot of good regional improvement. And Jeff, do you want to jump in there?
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes, I mean that’s the highlight of that one. It’s across a lot of verticals. It’s across a lot of regions, and it includes orders from distribution. So the fact that we can’t pinpoint one big contributor overall is a good news for me, that it is a little more widespread positive uptick.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
And does that also includes geographies?
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes, absolutely.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Great.
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes.
Deane Dray — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Okay, that’s good to see. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Thanks, Deane.
Operator
Our next question comes from Michael McGinn with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Hey, good morning, everybody.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Good morning.
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Just want to start — good morning. I just want to start off by saying as a native Central New Yorker, it’s not every day you hear about incremental manufacturing investment into Cortland New York, so appreciate that. My first question relates to the long-term growth algorithm you guys have stated with leverage now in a reasonable place. Historically, your focus on M&A has been addressing different geographies within tooling like the Larzep brand. Going forward, do you still think there is room for regional geographic expansion? Or is this a different model where maybe you’re looking to get closer to the factory floor with tooling in our nation? Or anything that stands out for you guys right now?
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Yes, let me just try to recap some of the things we’ve talked about in the past and then bring it back to your question about geographies. The main thing that we focused on has been the verticals and then the associated tools that go with those vertical markets. So things that have been highly interesting to us in our last acquisition, which is essentially just a year ago, that was based in the torque and tension markets, which we thought was a great fit to expand our tool platforms and we’ve already seen the benefits of that acquisition of expanding our torque wrench product lines. We still — we now have a full three-tier product line. And I believe that that has been a very good acquisition. So that’s a good example of how we view it, both from a vertical market we intend to participate more in and then the types of tools that go into that vertical market.
And so things for us right now, obviously, torque tension handle and transferring devices are still very interesting. Cutting and bending devices are also very interesting. And then the peripheral tools that are in general industrial markets like aerospace are also quite interesting. And then to directly answer your question relative to the geography. As we’ve said in the past, we believe a brand in the Asia-Pacific market at some point would be very valuable. And that’s really the last major geographic move we need to make would be an Asia Pacific manufactured brand.
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Great. I appreciate it. And then moving on to the margins. I know a lot has been discussed already. But if I back into the numbers, I’m coming up with something like the — you’re probably going to have to breach that 20% operating margin threshold within IGS by the fourth quarter. I just want to make sure I have that correct. Is that on par with similar prior peaks? And maybe can you help us frame what the margin differential from your new product development efforts have been under the 80-20 simplification versus SKUs that you kind of — you just have been rolling off the platform in terms of legacy products that are maybe lower margin that you’ve offered previously?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
I think from a margin perspective relative to Q3, Q4 progression, I think we are saying, when we end the Q4, we’ll have an order rate that supports a 20% — at least 20% margin run rate going forward. So that’s how we’re describing our progression through the back half of the year. If you — Jeff, do you want talk about NPD and margins there?
Jeff Schmaling — Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Yes, I mean, certainly, as we develop new products, our target is always to be at least debt line average and hopefully, a little bit above if they’re really new and innovative products. So I don’t see any interruption in that as we continue to launch new products. So certainly, the intent is for all those to be incremental.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
And with any NPD that they don’t always start at target, but we’ve had success in getting them fairly quickly.
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Okay. And then if I could sneak one more in on a more specific end market. Rail has come up a couple of times as an incremental opportunity. I just want to see, is this something where you’re in the railcar manufacturing facilities on the track? Are you working in conjunction with like Nordco Wabtec application? Or can you just kind of frame what your rail business is and what it looks likes and who you compete within that market?
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Yes. Sure, most of our activity is really on the rail side and the maintenance side of that system. We’ve got several specifically designed products to help maintain and install new rail and things like that. The competitors in that space kind of are normal hydraulic competitors. We have several partners that are primary suppliers to the big rail operators. So it is through distribution, but it’s relatively targeted specific distributors that sell to those end users. So that’s a space that we are bringing out some new products and some updates to our current product line. But given the age of that infrastructure, we do think there is opportunity there. And already this year, we’ve seen a fairly nice uptick in orders into that space.
Michael McGinn — Wells Fargo — Analyst
Got it. Appreciate the time.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Mike.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Justin Bergner with G. Research. Please state your question.
Justin Bergner — G. Research — Analyst
Good morning, Randy. Good morning, Rick, and rest of the team.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning.
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Good morning.
Justin Bergner — G. Research — Analyst
Just to start, I want to sort of step back and look at that 20% EBITDA margin guidance. You know, if you end the current fiscal year with something on the order of $525 million of revenue and $70 million to $75 million of adjusted EBITDA, what are the benefits beyond the normal incrementals that allow you to get to that 20% margin at $600 million of revenue, which basically would translate to an incremental $45 million to $50 million of EBITDA on an incremental $70 million of revenue? I’m just having sort of some difficulty thinking of the drivers beyond the sort of normal incremental range that allows you to get there?
Rick Dillon — Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Sure. And when we say, get into that normal and that $575 million to call it $600 million in revenue, we look at that. If you go — coming out of ’19, we were guiding, call it, somewhere between five — I think the midpoint is right around $595 million of that original guide. We’ve now taken all of the cost — $33 million of the costs — or of cost out that exiting at that $600 million level with — combined with the leverage on the cost out, that gets you to that 35% to 45% incremental, definitely high end, and it also results in the EBITDA margin at a normal run rate at $600 million plus revenues, that EBITDA margin to be above 20%. So in terms of what happens, it’s really product growth and product volume, that’s what’s really missing right now. And when I say product, it also includes — Jeff talked about this earlier, improved rental service activity as part of our value-add move. And then you get the approved — sorry, improved manufacturing utilization from the volume and we do have continued facility rationalization benefits that are yet to come as well. So all those combined, consistent with our original margin walk, we think you hit that roughly $600 million mark. You’ve done — we’ve done all the self-help things up to that point to get us to 20% and plus $600 million above 20%. And that above 20% to 25% is really driven off of market NPD value-added work and continuing to drive efficiencies within our manufacturing facilities.
Justin Bergner — G. Research — Analyst
Okay. Thank you. My second question relates to the infrastructure demand in Europe. I think this is something that you’ve emphasized new today or at least emphasized a lot more today. So what are the drivers there? Obviously, Europe is a lot of different countries and subregions. Does this have legs? How much of your European revenue base is tied up with infrastructure related demand at present? Just any sort of background you can provide will be helpful.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
Yes. There has been a book of quotes that we have had for numerous projects. I emphasize the bridge project especially, we’ve got numerous bridge projects, numerous — just kind of transportation related quotes that we’ve had open quotes on for months. And it’s been really encouraging that we are seeing many of those start to come to award stage. So I think, as I talk to my team in Europe, they are pretty bullish on the fact that the spending that has been planned for since pre-COVID is starting to get released. So I hesitate to give you a percentage of our revenue over there that’s tied up in that. But between those projects and the sales going through our general distribution, it’s a meaningful amount of our business. So I think it’s — there is some pent-up demand there, but there has also been some new projects as well that we’re starting to get some information on. So good news frankly, all around.
Justin Bergner — G. Research — Analyst
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. That’s all the questions today. I’ll now turn it back to management for closing remarks. Thank you.
Randy Baker — President and Chief Executive Officer
All right. Thank you very much everybody for joining us today, and we’ll look forward to follow-up.
Operator
[Operator Closing Remarks]
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